Jura The idiot
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I see your route would avoid la Manche ... time will tell
Aircraft Carriers III
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Jura The idiot
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... and I think the key word is:
Thermion
Indeed but a product of this nature was expected anyway. The article gives the reader the impression that structural modifications would have to be carried out. I think it is stretching the meaning of the word 'Modifications' to include painting the flight deck, no matter how fancy and expensive that 'paint' is.
Jura The idiot
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OK so leaving 'impressions' out and using the word you prefer
let me ask you:How many landing spots will the QEs have painted?
As far as I can tell the flight deck will have six spots, it should be noted as on the preceding CVS when STOVL types are landing on in VL configuration normal practice is to use one of the midships positions; ship movement is at it's least here in rough weather. Once on deck the aircraft taxies forward to park elsewhere leaving the spot clear for the next aircraft. A CAP of two aircraft will be recovered quickly together using two consecutive spots but they will still be in midships locations. SRVLS will involve one at a time landing on the runway touching down about a third of the ships length from the stern.OK so leaving 'impressions' out and using the word you prefer
How many landing spots will the QEs have painted?
Jura The idiot
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I had to google
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Spot on regards SRVLs. Incidentally the first SRVL happened over 34 years ago, and in combat! One of the Sea harriers of 800NAS returned to HMS Hermes with some ground fire damage, and a rolling landing was thought to be a safer alternative to a vertical landing. Hermes runway was cleared of other aircraft and the aircraft landed on at about 50-60knots, stopping just short of the ski jump. Remaining partially wingborne allowed the pilot to retain control by means other than the RCS 'puffer' jets which are the sole means of control in a VL. With the QECs and F-35B the technique is intended to allow a larger payload to be brought back to the ship safely, modern smart munitions being expensive and not to be wasted in this day and age should a strike mission be aborted,
Jura The idiot
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... then it's time to ask again
(as far as I know, recently two (2) such spots (#7 & #9) have been painted on the USS America)
(just my speculation now: the answer would be 'none' if the QEs fully relied on SRVLs, I guess)
Just to clarify, on the QECs there will be about six Helo landing spots down the length of the runway, but with SRVL only one position will be used for touchdown after which the aircraft rolls to a 'Braked' stop. VLs will still be the norm for aircraft returning from a mission with ordnance expended, just like on American LHA/LHDs. To this end there will be three reinforced 'VL' pads on the port side of the deck specifically for F-35Bs to land on, visible in this picture of Big Liz under construction. Specialist pads were part of the design from the beginning, but with the Thermion coating they'll be able to touch down practically anywhere on deck.
Jura The idiot
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here:
this is on the USS Wasp and I think it's clearly visible (in like top-left corner) they landed also out of the patch:
(I mean I know the deck wouldn't melt upon the first landing)
... are you implying Thermion will be over the deck of QEs?
this is on the USS Wasp and I think it's clearly visible (in like top-left corner) they landed also out of the patch:
(I mean I know the deck wouldn't melt
upon the first landing)