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TerraN_EmpirE

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when your right your right.
the Goal of Buddy stores is too increase the range of a force of combat aircraft by topping off there tanks, using a combination of the two could do that if the aircraft could
one: carry enough fuel too preform the mission, In example I know that some long strike missions of F/A18 E/F's will fly three armed Super hornets and one pure buddy stores topping off the tanks of it's wingmen as they go.
Two: Increase Time of loiter well the Aircraft wait for the deck too Clear.
If a Vtol Carrier Were Too Carry buddy stores F35B's and V22's Then It could both send aircraft too engage targets beyond there internal fuel capacity and even top off the tanks of the buddy enabling a much longer striking range maybe about the same as conventional carriers?
Adding such a capability for the V22 is on Boeing's things too do list. if such were added too conventional carriers it would also increase there capacity in terms of range and not only would a Tanker-osprey be a boost too naval Air fixed wing but rotor-wing as and Land forces Rotor-wing's too as the Probe and drogue used by the US navy and Marines is the only method I know of for air too air Refuel of helicopters.
 

Scratch

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Apperently, the Ford is plagued from the very begining with EMALS problems.

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Next-Gen Carrier Launch System Could Be Shelved

A decision point is looming for the U.S. Navy's biggest shipbuilding project: whether to launch carrier aircraft using cutting-edge - but untried, over-budget and behind-schedule - electromagnetic technology, or return to heavy, bulky, maintenance-intensive steam catapult systems that offer proven reliability.

Acting Navy Secretary B.J. Penn and Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Gary Roughead are to be briefed in mid-April by service officials on the status of the electromagnetic aircraft launch system, which is to be installed on the new Gerald R. Ford aircraft carrier, a three-star admiral said. The briefing also will include cost, schedule and other data that would result from replacing EMALS on the carrier with steam cats.

The review was spurred by technical development problems with EMALS that took place last year, causing further cost growth and production delays. Navy officials declined to reveal cost growth figures, citing the ongoing study, while industry officials have characterized the most recent delays as adding "a couple months" to the schedule. ...

The building of the ship has already started under the presumption to fit her with EMALS. If the navy now considers returning to steam cats, wich means changing the construction of the ship, wich I guess will be rather costly, the problems are probably rather severe. The probs are said to be a year old know, if they only start thinking about what to do now, it seems a little late. The Ford will probably be a little late anyway. Question is know how much more expensive she will be and how big the life cycle cost saving of EMALs actually are.

This has further implications. I've read speculations on decomissioning the USS Enterprise, wich is by far the most expensive CVN in the USN to maintain, early. If that should happen and the Ford come online later, the USN carrier force might be down for one or two years perhaps. The question is can that be accepted if it helps to get the whole carrier building process back on track later on, in the med - long term?
 

TerraN_EmpirE

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by American law the US carrier force must remain at eleven until 2040? that's why enterprise will leave the force in 2012 the same year the Ford was supposed too come online. however Gates has asked that the force be allowed too drop too 10 between 2012 and 2015 allowing the Ford too be built and the EMALs issues too be sorted.
 

bd popeye

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EMAL problem is typical of US military new designs.. Sad to say. We always have to have the latest and greatest..which is fine if the thing works. Our designers and R &D folks can't just leave well enough alone.

I hope they get the bugs worked out.

To my knowledge installing steam catapults should not be that difficult. Of course I'm not an Naval engineer.
 

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EMAL problem is typical of US military new designs.. Sad to say. We always have to have the latest and greatest..which is fine if the thing works. Our designers and R &D folks can't just leave well enough alone.

I hope they get the bugs worked out.

To my knowledge installing steam catapults should not be that difficult. Of course I'm not an Naval engineer.
Despite technical difficulties, construction continues on PCU Gerald R. Ford.

I am confidant that the EMALS issuew will be resolved and in place for her launching and ultimate commissioning.

While we continue to wait for the PLAN to start (or complete) its first carrier, the US Navy has completed and commissioned the Ronald Reagan, completed and commissioned the George H.W. Bush, and is now building the Gerald Ford.

Here are some great pics of the current CVN-78, PCU Gerald Ford construction:


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Inner bottom unit of PCU Gerald Ford hoisted by crane at Northrup Grumman Shipbuilding

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Propeller shafts for CVN-78 in machine shop.

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CVN-78 side shell unit being lifted in place.

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CVN-78 Structural units on final assembly.
 

bd popeye

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Jeff, Where did you get those photos? At Northrup Grumman website? Nice Job!

I've mentioned this before I just wish the USN would give Carriers names of historic/legacy ships such as Coral Sea, Valley Forge..etc..just my opinion..
 

bd popeye

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After our short discussion EMALS it appears the USN is pressing ahead with EMALS cats on CVN-78..

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Navy to press on with EMALS

By Andrew Tilghman - Staff writer
Posted : Wednesday Apr 15, 2009 18:49:16 EDT

After spate of questions and concerns, the Navy has decided to move ahead with a next-generation electromagnetic catapult launch system for the aircraft carrier currently under construction.

The move comes after the Navy conducted a review of its plans to replace the existing, steam-powered catapult system with the new technology, known as the
Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System, or EMALS.

"This decision is based on completion of an extensive review of the EMALS program, which included consideration of many significant factors and represents a balance between cost, schedule, technical performance, and consideration of
the risks to each," said Lt. Clay Doss, a Navy spokesman.

The first launch of a live aircraft by an EMALS isn't scheduled to happen until 2010.

But fabrication work on Navy's next carrier, the Gerald R. Ford, has begun, making an early decision on the launch system a necessity before construction proceeds much further. The Ford is slated for completion in 2015.

The EMALS technology will allow the Navy to step up the sortie rate from that of steam catapult systems — a key performance requirement for the next class of carriers. The electromagnetic technology is also expected to require less
maintenance and put less stress on carrier-based aircraft, Doss said.

Questions about EMALS intensified after a recent Government Accountability Office report that said cited the system as one of the highest risk factors in keeping the construction of the new carrier on cost and schedule, along with the untried dual-band radar system.

The Navy is entering into detailed, fixed-price contract negotiations with the systems builder, General Atomics, Doss said.
 

bd popeye

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Photos I've found on line of the ROKNS 6111 Dokdo..These photos were taken this week during the Chinese Naval review.

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