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I would not say that this is "over dramatization."
The key question is whether or not it is accurate.
If this is accurate:
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Then it represents a vry srious issue.
Is the source credible? Is the source right? We do not know who the source is and can therefore not gauge it.
Here are some key points.
US Naval jet aircraft for aircraft carriers with twin engines are designed to be able to "bolt" on one engine. That's a part of the design criteria (at least it has been in the past).
Was the Mig-29K designed to do this? There should really not be a question of it being "suspect." If it is not known, then that would be a very serious missed design consideration...I mean a really serious one. Either it was designed to do this or it was not.
I have not heard of any Mig-29K ditches, and if 30 engines have already failed, then I would expect some of them may have failed in such a fashion...we just do not know. I expect if any had been ditched we would know that.
Now, the Mig-29K is the Vikramadityas (and later the Vikrant's) principle weapon. If it's engine is showing to be this problematic, it is a HUGE issue that must be resolved soon.
And not by saying that the Mig-29K is capable of bolting on one engine. That should be a given and represents a drastic, safety consideration to save the aircraft and the pilot in the rare event of an engine failing while landing. It cannot be considered a normal way of operating. If they have this severe a problem with those engines, they have to fix them...and I expect they will.
All of this presumes that this source is reporting reliable information.
Intrepid
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Is this a fact?
May be, a "failed" engine is an engine, that has to be replaced before it failed in flight?
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Could very well be. As I stated, we just do not know enough about the source and the detailsit to make that determination.
But if 30 engines have failed to date that is a HUGE number.
They have 21 operational Mig-29K aircraft at this stage I believe...which require 42 engines plus spares. If 30 have failed, it sounds like upwards of half of the all the engines they have received have failed.
That is why I wonder about the accuracy. Something this serious should have been recognized and addressed long before this.
well if you must know,
the same guy said earlier that the Arihant could not go for long patrols because of her small reactor,
which according to him will have to be refuelled, every time she would go for patrol,and also that she would not have enough fuel for long patrols.
while saying that, i must also say that the Mig29k's have indeed been facing the same problems.
1)there was something wrong with their radars,i don't know what but it was problematic enough for them to ground the entire fleet .
2)they have had some issues with corrosion.
3)the Russian after sales service has not been regular.(especially with the engines)
the new Rd33 MK was supposed to be smokeless,it was initially,but for some reason i don't the problem has surfaced later
but this is the first time i have heard of the engines failing.
and i know a few guys in the navy.
a retd. indian navy Mig 29k technician/mechanic i know once told me.that STOBAR take off was not healthy for the engines.
i wonder how the GE414 's will fare
as for the mig29k being the principal aircraft on the Vikramaditya and the Vikrant.
it depends on whether the navy gets the LCA Navy Mk2 prototypes in 2018,and whether the Vikrant will be delivered in 2018-2019,which according to a guy i know, who visited kochin shipyard limited yesterday is doubtful,though she will get her propellers later this year.
according to the Indian navy ,they are shaping up the LCA navy to be an air defence aircraft while the mig 29k's will be used as a strike fighter.
if the LCA navy isn't ready by 2018 then only will they order another squardon of migs.
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More so the latter is probably the reason!!
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Seems like just yesterday that the Canberra was launched. Now she's getting all worked up for deployment! And her sister will be right behind her and then the Hobart DDGs will follow.Boy, would I love to see six F-35Bs on that deck!
It is complicated to insert a quote. I like the old school way. I also think the number of photos per post should be at least 10 per post maximum. 5 is just not enough....just sayin'...
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