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TerraN_EmpirE

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hence my listing. If they lack the Escorts it's a target., if they lack the Aircraft it's useless, if they lack the amphibious platforms it's useless.
And the Canadian Military lacks all three. To get it it would require investment of maybe as much as double to triple the unit cost of the Ship it's self. That's not counting the Escorts as They need those anyway and will one way or the other have to buy them.
 

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If they lack the Escorts it's a target.,
But they do have effective escorts.

They have 12 very decent Halifax Frigates, all commissioned between 1992 and 1996. They were upgraded and modernized beginning in 2010 in a refit that extended their life and capabilities to 2030. They are decent escorts with good multi-role capabilities, including 16 ESSM anti-air missiles each in two eight cells Mk-48 VLS launchers which gives them credible medium range air defense, and eight Harpoon missiles for ASuW. They are also very decent ASW platforms. Two of them would provide decent escort coverage for a Mistral.

Now, the Iroquois DDGs are a different matter. They need to be replaced post haste and the Canadians do have a Destroyer Replacement program. It's called the Single Class Surface Combatant Project and is a part of the Canadian National Shipbuilding Procurement Strategy which was dated 2011. They plan to replace the Iroquois starting in the late teens, and then proceed and replace the Halifax as well by 2030. They intend to build fifteen of these vessels.

So there is an effective escort for the proposed acquisition now, and plans to modernize the entire force.

if they lack the Aircraft it's useless,
The Canadians have purchased fifteen CH-147F Chinooks. They started taking delivery of these two years ago. They are certainly capable of providing air assault capabilities off of a Mistral. In addition, they have now finally successfully completed trials with the Canadian Navy for the CH-148 Cyclones which have been so troubled. In June they finally signed a new contract with Sikorsky for delivery of more aircraft starting in 2015. I believe between those two, they could provide an effective helo wing for a Mistral.

if they lack the amphibious platforms it's useless.
I would presume, that if the Canadians were to get the Mistrals (either one or both) they would also procure the French connector amphibious vessels to go with it. It would make no sense to get one without the other.

And the Canadian Military lacks all three.
Well, they really only lack the amphibious connector vessels which they can buy from France that were specifically designed to work with the Mistral class. I believe they would.

But they do have FFGs that can escort such a vessel, and they do have helos that can operate off of them. My guess is that a purchase of a Mistral would also result in more Chinooks and probably more Cyclones.
 
yesterday in Bari, Italy it was possible to tour
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(I wasn't there LOL but a moment ago found out at the Italian Navy Facebook)

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I realized you would need to click on the picture "again" to see like panoramic view of the flight deck (otherwise it's ugly :)
 
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yesterday in Bari, Italy it was possible to tour (the Cavour).

(I wasn't there LOL but a moment ago found out at the Italian Navy Facebook)

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I realized you would need to click on the picture "again" to see like panoramic view of the flight deck (otherwise it's ugly :)
That would have been an awesome tour to be able to go on.

Here's that wide-angle view:


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Miragedriver

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I didn't know where else to place this bit of news

NASA Captured the Lonely Last Journey of an Aircraft Carrier

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This is the loneliest funeral march I've ever seen. This photo from November 5th was taken during a NASA mission called Operation IceBridge, the goal of which is to survey polar ice. But it also captured the aircraft carrier USS Constellation (CV-64), a Kitty Hawk-class supercarrier being towed by comparatively tiny tugboats. The Constellation is destined for demolition after 41 years of commissioned service and 11 years of retirement. The huge Navy vessel will be scrapped at Brownsville, Texas, after towed around Cape Horn on her final voyage.
[NASA Goddard Space Flight Center]



I will now get back to bottling my Malbec
 

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I thought I would give a more thorough pictorial documentation of the historic F-35C carrier arrested landing and catapult launch of the F-35C aboard the USS Nimitz, CVN-68 here on SD on a couple of threads. These occurred and are ongoing this last week...and specifically on November 3rd for the first arrested landing and catapult launch.

A very historic two aircraft trial for the US Navy. These pictures show the approach, the instants before, during, and after the trap, and then the catapult launch.


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Yes, baby! Finally, 5th generation stealth aircraft at sea on a full deck carrier.

See all of my F-35 high res photos at my
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I thought I would give a more thorough pictorial documentation of the historic F-35C carrier arrested landing and catapult launch of the F-35C aboard the USS Nimitz, CVN-68 here on SD on a couple of threads. These occurred and are ongoing this last week...and specifically on November 3rd for the first arrested landing and catapult launch.

A very historic two aircraft trial for the US Navy. These pictures show the approach, the instants before, during, and after the trap, and then the catapult launch.


F35C-seatrials-02.jpg


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F35C-seatrials-11.jpg


F35C-seatrials-12.jpg


Yes, baby! Finally, 5th generation stealth aircraft at sea on a full deck carrier.

See all of my F-35 high res photos at my
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Yes and that reminds me that Sino Defense's two most famous Sailor Men deserve a Hero's thank-you from your fellow country-men, Popeye and Kwai---love you both, and I can't begin to thank-you for your friendship, fellowship, and the wealth of hard earned experience that you have both shared with the Sino Defense Forum, I have loved every minute of it, and appreciate all of you who have served your country in the military, God's richest blessing to our brothers in uniform. the Air Force Brat.
 
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GREAT pic of th US Navy Nuclear Aircraft Carrier, USS George Bush, CVN-77, in the Gulf of Aden:


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The aircraft carrier USS George H.W. Bush (CVN 77) transits the Gulf of Aden. The George H.W. Bush Carrier Strike Group is returning to Naval Station Norfolk after supporting maritime security operations, strike operations in Iraq and Syria as directed, and theater security cooperation efforts in the U.S. 5th Fleet area of responsibility.

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Had to share it here.
 
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