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asif iqbal

asif iqbal

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That is true but the main point about the Darings being integrated into the USN carrier groups is that the foundation for air defence for a carrier is already there for when the UK gets it's own carriers

Not only that UK naval aviators are training and flying hornets off USN carriers

Again not only does it benefit the USN but the main thing is that they will be skilled and ready for when UK gets it's own carriers

As a matter of fact USN is pretty much doing allot of the work for UK naval aviation and escorts for when the Queen Elizabeth are commissioned which will save time and money when it comes to the real thing

Because let's remember UK has not operated a carrier for a long long time so this additional experience will greatly enchanted their capability

Plus UK and USA are close allies so makes all the more sense
 
Jeff Head

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asif iqbal said:
That is true but the main point about the Darings being integrated into the USN carrier groups is that the foundation for air defence for a carrier is already there for when the UK gets it's own carriers
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Oh, no doubt that the UK is gaining a lot of operational experience that will benefit them.

But, I believe in this specific instance, that the main pont here is for the UK to be shown to be actively engaged in the fight against ISIS.

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Again not only does it benefit the USN but the main thing is that they will be skilled and ready for when UK gets it's own carriers.
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Yes, the CSG is stronger for having the HMS Defender or any other Daring with it. My only issue was that the artcile was written in a manner that anyone not knowing better would think that the UK vessel was vital in protecting the carrier for air defense. That is simply not so.

As to the HMS Defender adding more protection...of course it does.

As to the HMS Defender crew and the Royal Navy gaining experience that will benefit them when the QEs hit the water...of course they will.

And all of that is good.
 
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Sea Waves said:
Williamstown October 9, 2014 - The Defence Materiel Organisation (DMO) has accepted the first Landing Helicopter Dock (LHD), NUSHIP Canberra, from contractor BAE Systems.

A ceremony took place in Canberra's hangar to mark the significance of the signing of the acceptance certificate. Senior representatives from DMO, BAE Systems and Navy attended the event.

DMO Chief Executive, Warren King, said that the acceptance of the ship was the result of well coordinated hard work across a number of agencies.

“This project is the culmination of many agencies working together to achieve the delivery of one of the most impressive Defence capabilities we have seen in recent times,” said Mr King.

Mr King acknowledged the DMO Project team, BAE Systems, Navantia and all the sub-contractors and agencies who have worked in cooperation to make the Landing Helicopter Dock a reality.

“I imagine the ship’s company of NUSHIP Canberra are very excited as they prepare to move onboard the ship,” said Mr King.

The DMO will be custodians of the ship on behalf of Defence while final preparations are made before handing over to the Royal Australian Navy in late November.

Chief Executive of BAE Systems Australia, David Allott, said the delivery of the first LHD was a significant milestone not only for BAE Systems and the Commonwealth, but also for Australian shipbuilding and international co-operation.
“This is a significant milestone for BAE Systems as the prime contractor to deliver the first of class of the largest ever warship for the Australian Defence Forces,” said Mr Allott.

“Shipbuilding projects are long term and it’s a credit to the organisations we worked with including the Commonwealth, Navantia, L3 and Saab and the individuals on the project teams for their perseverance, dedication and commitment to delivering this complex and highly capable ship,” he said.

Canberra will remain at BAE Systems dockyard in Williamstown for the next few weeks as Navy personnel continue to move on board and conduct training and other preparations before it sails to its homeport of Sydney to be commissioned later this year.

Work is progressing on the second LHD, NUSHIP Adelaide, which is berthed next to Canberra.
These 27,000 tonne ships are the largest vessels ever constructed for the Royal Australian Navy and will provide the Australian Defence Force with one of the most capable and sophisticated air-land-sea amphibious deployment systems in the world.

The LHD is capable of complex amphibious operations and support to humanitarian assistance and disaster relief operations.
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Great news.

...and with the ongoing study, ordered by the Australian government, to look at purchasing F-35Bs for these vessels, it's nothing but good news for Australia.
 
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the superstructure of of ins vikrant has been attached to the ship, also the stern seems to be complete. anyone interested can see satellite imagery through isro's bhuvan 3d(if you have the patience for the satellite image to get loaded).the image is hazy but its clear that the superstructure has been integrated.interesting thing is i think i can see the landing runway


i think they are doing something in the foreward area infront of the superstructure (colour difference goes from blue to brown)
 
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This is simply an outstanding picture. It is something we have talked about, watched for, and waited for on SDF for many years, wondering when it would happen and how it would look.

The carrier, two Type 052C DDGs and three Type 054A FFGs with a Type 093 SSN in the lead. Even though the eight aircraft are not off of the carrier, they represent what will soon be reality.

Here's the picture on my Flicker CV-16 Album and the caption I put with it:

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2014 picture of the Chinese Navy (PLAN) aircraft carrier strike group. The Liaoning, CV-16 is pictured, with two Type 052C guided-missile destroyers in the foreground, three Type 054A guided-missile frigates, and a Type 093 nuclear attack submarine in the lead. The eight fighters shown are land based and are not off of the carrier, but they are similar to the J-15 aircraft that will be housed on the carrier. To date no more than three or four J-15 strike aircraft have been seen on the carrier and they have been test aircraft.

Heck of a picture
 
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