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I made a statement and you interjected your view...twice now. Folks can decide for themselves.

So both parties, Jeff & Chuck, have expressed their opinion.. let us end it now. Thank you.

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Nimitz is now in the Mediterranean Sea...

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Story Number: NNS131021-01Release Date: 10/21/2013 7:15:00 AM
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From Commander, U.S. Naval Forces Europe-Africa/Commander, U.S. 6th Fleet Public Affairs

MEDITERRANEAN SEA (NNS) -- The nuclear-powered aircraft carrier USS Nimitz (CVN 68) and her escort, guided-missile cruiser USS Monterey (CG 61), conducted a northbound transit of the Suez Canal, Oct. 20.

USS Nimitz was most recently operating in the Red Sea to provide the U.S. options for responding to crisis situations.

USS Nimitz will operate in the Mediterranean Sea and train with international partners before returning to her home port of Everett, WA.

Nimitz entered the U.S. 5th Fleet area of operations, June 9.
 

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Why do Russian and to a lesser degree Chinese warships usually have a much longer hull in relation to the beam compare to Western designs?
 
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I made a statement and you interjected your view...twice now. Folks can decide for themselves.

So both parties, Jeff & Chuck, have expressed their opinion.. let us end it now. Thank you.

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Tis' a sad, sad day for me Forrestal shipmates..aaarrrvvv..

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Here’s a penny for your thoughts: One red cent could’ve landed you the Navy’s first supercarrier, the decommissioned Forrestal.

The U.S. Navy sold the 1,067-foot behemoth to a Texas company, All Star Metals, to be dismantled, scrapped and recycled, Navy officials announced. It's an inauspicious fate for a ship with a colorful — and tragic — history. It's perhaps best known for a 1967 incident in which stray voltage triggered an accidental explosion that struck a plane on the flight deck whose cockpit was occupied by a young John McCain. A chain reaction of blasts and fires ultimately killed 134 men and injured more than 300.

But its rich past and nearly four decades of service are not enough to spare it. The Navy tried to donate the historic ship for use as a memorial or a museum, but no “viable applications” were received.

“It’s something that the Navy is caught between a rock and a hard place,” said Ken Killmeyer, historian for the USS Forrestal Association and a survivor of the 1967 incident. “They have to have these vessels no matter how big or small they are, and they use them as you would your car until they’re no longer financially viable. So, they decommission them.”

The company plans to tow the aircraft carrier from its current location at the Navy’s inactive ship facility in Philadelphia to its facility in Brownsville, Texas. All Star Metals anted up the token purchase price based on its anticipated cost of moving and dismantling the ship and the value of the scrap metal it will yield, according to a Navy press release.

Meanwhile, Navy officials say the award of contracts for two other conventional carriers, the ex-Saratoga and ex-Constellation, are also pending and are contingent upon facility security clearances.
 

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Why do Russian and to a lesser degree Chinese warships usually have a much longer hull in relation to the beam compare to Western designs?

Not really, both the Sovremnny and type 052s are lighter and substantially shorter than the Ticos and Spruences, yet possess a slightly wider beams.

You are probably comparing designs with roots in the 1950s and 1960s with designs done in the 1970s and 1980s. These earlier designs, probably as a result of WWII destroyer heritage, still emphasized speed well in excess of 32 knots. As a result, they needed a long lean hull to more economically exceed their hull speeds. Starting from the 1970s, navies have generally given up the idea that speeds much in excess of 30 knots is really of any tactical value at all. So they started to employ broader hulls restricted to 30-32 knots, but can keep up their speeds better in heavier seas, as being more versatile and useful than hulls which can dash at 36 knots in relative calm but which must cut their speed dramatically in any sort of sea.
 
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David Axe has once again written a terrible article.

The only part which is true is that steam boilers are not as good as nuclear reactors (or even gas turbines).
The part about being unable to launch heavy fighters from ski jump, and even the so called "state media" reference are all mis informed.
 
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