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Scratch

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I've got a quick queston here.

Are the different F/A-18 squadrons in the USN oriented towards different missions, specificlly SQs flying two-seaters as compared to the single seater units? Or are they all in the same way multirole?

On a different note. I think the UK MoD has asked LM to look into fitting the F-35C for buddy-buddy ops. A requirement the USN does not have, since they can rely on the SH for aerial refuling.
Any outcome yet? And will the british jets differ in more ways than that?
 
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bd popeye

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As far as I know the only F-18s in the USN/USMC flying two seaters are the training squadrons. Fleet squadrons all fly one seaters. Selected squadrons may have one or two two seaters assigned.
 

Obi Wan Russell

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I thought that former F-14 sqns that re equipped with Super Hornets recieved two seat F-18Fs (one sqn did get single seat F-18Es), to allow the Pilot/RIO partnership experience to be carried forward to the new aircraft which was taking over the fleet defence role from the Tomcats. Dedicated strike sqns got the single seat F-18E. The 'F is fully combat capable, not just a trainer. My info is a couple of years old though and my brain ain't what it used to be!
 

Scratch

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A quick check at wiki showed 9 F-model SQs & 10 E-models SQs. All but one of the twin seat F units seem to have flown Tomcats at some point in their history. While maybe close to half the listet E units did, with the others flying Intruders or Crusaders before that.
There's also 14 "legacy" Hornet units listed, with all of them having flown Intruders or Crusaders, it seems.
So maybe Obi Wan isn't completely off :)

Thanks anyway to both of you...
 

navyreco

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Pentagon Contract Announcement

(Source: U.S Department of Defense; issued December 21, 2011)

General Atomics, San Diego, Calif., is being awarded a $17,405,515 modification to a previously awarded cost-plus-fixed-fee contract (N00019-11-C-0057) to provide engineering support for the development of Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System and advanced arresting gear configurations for the United Kingdom’s Queen Elizabeth Class Aircraft Carrier Program.

Work will be performed in San Diego, Calif., and is expected to be completed in June 2012. Contract funds will not expire at the end of the current fiscal year.

The Naval Air Systems Command, Patuxent River, Md., is the contracting activity.
 

Scratch

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What's going on on the island? People rasing money to sink Ark Royal for it to become an artificial reef, an atraction for divers?
And how could that be a "positive outcome for the iconic ship"?
Sure it would be nice to dive around a shipwreck, but a former flagship? There should be more suitable ways of commemorating here.

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Aircraft carrier sinking plans given £3m boost
Friday, December 23, 2011 - Western Morning News

The charity behind plans to sink the Ark Royal off the coast of Torbay to create a money-spinning artificial reef has secured the £3 million bond needed to purchase the ship.

The latest announcement comes just weeks after Wreck the World, the charity behind the idea to see the Royal Navy's former flagship aircraft carrier sunk to create a reef, launched a public appeal to find the money.
It was announced on Tuesday that A&P in Falmouth, a global company dealing in ship repair and marine services, would foot the bill.
Peter Child, managing director of A&P Falmouth, said: "We are pleased to have agreed in principal to act as parent company guarantor, which in turn would see us preparing the ship as an artificial reef for divers.

"This is a credible project and would be a positive outcome for the iconic ship, as well as both the South West tourism and ship repair industries."

Michael Byfield, spokesman for Wreck the World, said the news had come as a pleasant boost to the charity's ambitions.
He said: "We are now a much more viable entity. We have all things in place: the money, the lease of the seabed, and now the security bond.
"We are even closer than ever to sinking the vessel."

Wreck the World has already pledged the £3.5 million needed to submit a tender offer for the decommissioned vessel.
The charity plans to sink the ship in Lyme Bay to create one of the biggest diving attractions in Europe.
The £3 million security "deposit" on the vessel, which A&P will now provide, will be returned by the Navy after the project is completed.
The project won the backing of Torbay Council earlier in the year and it is estimated some 500 people a day could visit the wreck, potentially pumping around £11 million a year into the local economy. ...

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And a funny story as well this evening:

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Russian aircraft carrier caught dumping rubbish into sea off Scottish coast
Dec 15 2011 - By Charlie Gall

RUSSIAN sailors tipped rubbish into the Moray Firth as they sheltered from stormy weather.
The crew of the aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov were spotted chucking binbags into the sea – a sanctuary for seals and bottlenose dolphins.

The 65,000-ton ship was one of several Russian navy vessels sheltering from the the weather in international waters.
A Royal Navy destroyer was scrambled in a security scare after the aircraft carrier, without warning, came within 30 miles of Britain for the first time in 20 years.

In the past, a Nimrod aircraft from nearby RAF Kinloss would have been dispatched but the Tory Government scrapped the base and cancelled a new fleet of spy planes.
Instead, HMS York travelled 1000 miles from Portsmouth to shadow the ships seeking shelter in the firth.
One observer said: “Meanwhile, our fleet of reconnaissance aircraft are being melted down to make fizzy drink cans.” ...
 
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Kurt

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The Russians don't intend to threaten your island. If you spend less on the military now, you can spend more when you really need it.
 

Kurt

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I was just wondering if the Japanese have V/STOL Air Craft Carrier …what kind of reaction will Chinese have if they parked JSF on board? Can anyone give me the operational radius of vertically takeoff JSF?


And I found some interesting picture of so called submarine air craft carrier; it looks childish, but come to think about it, it is quite possible with today’s technology to build one
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the idea is, of course use submarine to carry aircraft.
And I think it is quite possible for JSF to vertically land on an open shell type of platform, or just vertically lunch future aircraft like a missile.
Imagination is what moves the technology forward…
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This idea has often been discussed. The expensive part of a submarine is the pressure hull where the crew is. The deeper the craft is intended to go, the more expensive it gets.
The French decided to give the submersible idea a new try with the SMX 25
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. The advantage of a submersible is that the naval vessel is not built for deep diving with a pressurized hull, so it's a lot cheaper. It's totally possible that increased surveillance capability will force current surface ships to go submersible with some modifications. Even flying submarines (more correctly submersibles) are fiction that is within reach of technical capability. But is it worth the effort?
When Clinton deployed two aircraft carriers & Co to the Chinese littoral in 1996 the Chinese couldn't locate these surface ships in their littoral, so there's possibly still no need to go underneath the water.
 
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