Aerospace Industry in Latin America

b787

b787

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Miragedriver said:
The I.Ae.24 Calquin could have been a good Maritime Reconnaissance Aircraft
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Things would have been different in Latin America if the Pulqui II went into production
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There would have been more interesting designs out of Latin America


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About the IAe-24 i agree, i think Argentina should had built or sold more it was beautiful and look with good performance same the IAe-30. but in my opinion, i think the IAe-35 Huanquero program was more important because it had national engines.

Pulqui was a very important program, but if you have studied the aerospace industry of France or Sweden, they have made more than 200 aircraft of each generation, see the Mirage III or Gripen production numbers.

The most interesting thing is the most produced aircraft in Latin America are jets, yes there were more than 1000 Embrear ERJ-145s and more than 1000 E-170 jets, i mean, the reason is more countries buy jets for civil use

The Phenom 100 has already delivered 300 aircraft

April 2014: Embraer Executive Jets has delivered the
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So, in my opinion Embraer has become the third largest jet maker in the world by supplying the demand of jets.

Just looking at this video we can see the greatness of Embraer, competing in the land of A-321

The largest mistake in Latin america has been we quit the piston engine programs and the jet engines build in Latin america are only Brazilian and prototypes
 
Jeff Head

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Miragedriver said:
The I.Ae.24 Calquin could have been a good Maritime Reconnaissance Aircraft
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Well, for its time (being brough on line in 1946), it was a very decent design concept.

But it suffered from several weaknesses that made it particularly unstable.

There were over fifty personnel killed in accidents with the Calquín in operational service...and that was out of only like 100 aircraft ordered.

As I say, it was a good design concept...but it needed a lot of improvement to actually achieve the goals they had for it. As it was, by the late 1950s it was essentially out of service...with the last aircraft being taken completely out of service by 1960 or so.

Too bad too. As I say, with the right resource and modifications, it could have been a long standing patrol aircraft.

These types of things take a lot of resource and commitment to bring all the way into really good service. For example, the US V-22 has taken a long time and a lot of expenditure of wealth and human life to get to the good operations it is now enjoying. Without the resource and the willingness to continue with a good idea despite the difficulties and losses...it could have easily gone the way of the Calquin.

Sadly...for any such development in the military areana...those end up being the currency...money and life.
 
Miragedriver

Miragedriver

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Jeff Head said:
.......Too bad too. As I say, with the right resource and modifications, it could have been a long standing patrol aircraft.

These types of things take a lot of resource and commitment to bring all the way into really good service. For example, the US V-22 has taken a long time and a lot of expenditure of wealth and human life to get to the good operations it is now enjoying. Without the resource and the willingness to continue with a good idea despite the difficulties and losses...it could have easily gone the way of the Calquin.

Sadly...for any such development in the military areana...those end up being the currency...money and life.
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Originally the I.Ae. 24 was intended to be equipped with
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but an adequate supply of the powerplants was not possible, consequently Pratt & Whitney R-1830-G “Twin Wasp” radials of 1,050 hp (782.5 kW) were substituted. The aircraft was underpowered and test pilots considered the aircraft unstable "on all three axis" and required careful handling.

The same analogy can be made for automobiles. A Hyundai or a Mercedes.
Except when the Hyundai breaks down you don’t crash and burn.
 
b787

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Jeff Head said:
I believe that the AV-1 Albatross is built by Dronetech. It's a demonstrator.

DroneTech is a San Antonio, Texas company.

Dronetech
9901 I.H. 10 West
Suite 800
San Antonio, TX 78230
Tel. +1-210-201-1163

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The company is Mexican and the design is Mexican, in fact the website says:

Our Mexican office, Dronetech SAPI de CV, is present at this year's
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We are making
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and the head designers are Mexicans

Desarrollo de vehículos aéreos no tripulados de ala fija con capacidad de despegue y aterrizaje vertical D.A. Arellano Escárpita, J.G. Sada Salinas Dronetech S.A.P.I. de C.V.
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Development of unmanned aerial vehicles capable fixed-wing vertical takeoff and landing DA Escárpita Arellano, J. G. Sada Salinas Dronetech S.A.P.I. de C.V.


David Alejandro Arellano Escárpita Ingeniero Mecánico egresado del Instituto Tecnológico de Durango en 2002. Obtuvo el grado de Maestría en Ingeniería Mecánica con especialidad en Diseño Mecánico en 2004 en la Facultad de Ingeniería Mecánica, Eléctrica y Electrónica de la Universidad de Guanajuato y Doctorado en Ciencias de Ingeniería con especialidad en Mecatrónica en 20011 en el Instituto Tecnológico de Monterrey. Es co-fundador de la empresa Aerovantech S.A.P.I. de C.V. donde es responsable del desarrollo de vehículos aéreos no tripulados desde el 2010.
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David Alejandro Arellano Escárpita Mechanical Engineer graduated from Durango Institute of Technology in 2002. He earned a Masters degree in Mechanical Engineering with specialization in Mechanical Design in 2004 at the Faculty of Mechanical Engineering, Electrical and Electronics, University of Guanajuato and Doctorate in Sciences Mechatronics engineering with specialization in 20011 at the Technological Institute of Monterrey. He is co-founder Aerovantech S.A.P.I. de C.V. which he is responsible for developing unmanned aerial vehicles since 2010


In this text they say they are from Nuevo Leon Mexico, however they opened a branch in Texas since as you know the Mexican population in Texas is very important
 
Miragedriver

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Jeff Head said:
I believe that the AV-1 Albatross is built by Dronetech. It's a demonstrator.

DroneTech is a San Antonio, Texas company.

Dronetech
9901 I.H. 10 West
Suite 800
San Antonio, TX 78230
Tel. +1-210-201-1163

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Hey Jeff, early UAV project in Buenos Aires;)
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Ok, I will get serious now...........


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b787

b787

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Miragedriver said:
Hey Jeff, early UAV project in Buenos Aires;)
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Ok, I will get serious now...........


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El ventiladorcoptero hahaha


If you look at this video, it says DronetechUAV AV-1 Albatross, but if you look at the aircraft it says Aerovantech and the youtube channel is owned by Alejandro Escarpita himself

It is logic why dronetech is in Texas, they are targeting the US market in the same way Embraer does
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I do not care if the drone is Mexican or not, at the end is a human invention and it belongs to all humanity, but as a Latin american aircraft it belongs to this thread, but the idea of the VTOL is not new Germany had a VTOL with jets and manned, it was the Dornier DO-31


But well Scarpita used the same idea for an UAV drone
 
Jeff Head

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b787 said:
The company is Mexican and the design is Mexican, in fact the website says:

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and the head designers are Mexicans


In this text they say they are from Nuevo Leon Mexico, however they opened a branch in Texas since as you know the Mexican population in Texas is very important
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From everything I have read, Drone Tech is a US company with headquarters in the United States, b787, and it does have a Mexican office.

I can find no indication that the company was started in Mexico and then opended a US branch office.

Do you have a history of the company that says different?

Any company, be it US or Mexican...or any other engineering company in the free world is going to have engineers from various nationalities. Boeing, Lockheed, General Dynamics, etc. have engineeres working on very important programs from nations all over the world. They also have branch offices in numerous nations. That does not change the fact that they are US companies.

Anyhow...my point is simple. If DroneTech is indeed a US Company, then the design they sell is going to be considered a US design.

If, OTHOH, you can show that the company itself originated in Mexico and has its headquarters there...then it is indeed a Latin American company.

That is all.

This is not a dis on the design...it looks interesting. Simply wanting to keep the Latin American Aerospace Thread focused on Latin America.
 
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