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Does someone know if AEGIS, PAAMS, SEWACO are completely introperable?
I mean can PAAMS control ESSM/SM-2 from Sachsens or Bazans, or can one of these two types control Asters from Darings/Horizons?

And Jeff, to make it on your AEGISVESSELS site, does the ship only have to have a phased-array, or an active-phased-array and/or must it be planar arrays ??

Becuase the finnish HAMINA-class FAC might have all.
*8 cell VLS for short range Umkhomto IR missiles,
*EADS TRS-3D/16ES passive phased array radar,
*EADS ANCS 2000 BMS wich -according to EADS- combines all the ships
sensors and weapons in one network.

Would be funny to see it there.
 
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A couple of nice pics of the Spanish F-100..enjoy

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Jeff Head said:
Good questions. In those couolmns I am defining any missile that can be controlled by the battle management system from the VLS tubes with a range at 50km or more as long range. The Evolved Sea Sparrow meets this criteria.

In the SR AAW column, I am considering anything that can be launched by the VLS system and controlled by the battle management system that can engage threats from the extent of the CIWS system out to 15-20 km. The Evolved Sea Sparrow also meets this criteria.

As to the Lanzhou or Type 52C, that is simply a typo that I will correct. To my knowledge there is no short range missile on those vessels and the HQ-9 is advertised as a medium to long range weapon. I will fix that ASAP...thanks for pointing it out.

Note, these two columns do not apply to the column for additional AAW missiles, where I am putting any additional missile systems that are not VLS, like the RAM systems on the Sachsen and other vessels.
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I see. I think maybe it's better to describe the missile as >100km long range and anti sea skimming AShW missile.
 
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Totoro said:
Burkes definitely have 3 illuminators, 2 in the back, 1 in the front. (check any pic of burke for that) If missiles were to approach from the side of the ship, all 3 could be used. That would mean that at one time, up to 3 targets could be engaged by sm-2/essm simultaneously. One has to take into consideration the ability or inability of the attacker to time the missile approaches to the targeted ship so they all strike at the same moment. Cause even if we have missiles striking just few seconds apart, that "3 targets engaged simultaneously" can easely rise to 6 or 9 or more near simultaneously.
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I think ESSM has active radar guidance so it does not need illuminator. Therefore it only needs intermediate guidance from SPY-1 so much more can be directed at the same time. Also, one illuminator may have multiple channels?
 
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bd popeye said:
A couple of nice pics of the Spanish F-100..enjoy

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Great! The Spanish AEGIS frigates are pretty awesome. Now, here's a couple more of the newly launched KDX-III , or Sejong the Great AEGIS DDG, what I consider to be the most capable and heavily armed AEGIS vessel on the planet:

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szbd said:
I think ESSM has active radar guidance so it does not need illuminator. Therefore it only needs intermediate guidance from SPY-1 so much more can be directed at the same time. Also, one illuminator may have multiple channels?
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ESSM has semiactive homing
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and it definitely does depend on the same illuminators used for sm-2. Like with the sm-2, it can time share the fire control system resources so indeed several missiles can be fired at the same time. However, for terminal approach to the target (which can take seconds or more, depending on the many variables) one illuminator MUST be dedicated for one target. Illuminator in itself is just a flashlight. It is the fire control system that has multiple channels, but it's still dependant on number of illuminated targets. (i'm not sure on this, but i suspect multiple missiles can be lead to one illuminated target)
 
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Scratch said:
And Jeff, to make it on your AEGISVESSELS site, does the ship only have to have a phased-array, or an active-phased-array and/or must it be planar arrays ??
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It clearly does not have to be a APAR (Active Phased Array Radar) because the AEGIS system itself uses a multi-function, three dimensional passive electronically scanned phased array. The AN/SPY-1 is not an APAR.

The German Sachsen, the UKs Type 45, and the Dutch De Zeven all use APAR. The AN/SPY-3 planned for the DDX and CGX will be APAR I believe.


Scratch said:
the finnish HAMINA-class FAC might have all.
*8 cell VLS for short range Umkhomto IR missiles,
*EADS TRS-3D/16ES passive phased array radar,
*EADS ANCS 2000 BMS wich -according to EADS- combines all the ships
sensors and weapons in one network.

Would be funny to see it there.
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I'll have to look into it...but having the systems on the same network does not necessarily mean that they are all controlled by the same system. I will look at them though.
 
szbd

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I think 054A looks somewhat similar with F100. For KDXIII, it seems it doesnot have a bow mounted sonar?
 
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Eairler Bigstick posted;
We already are lacking considerably in escorts, and as of a few years ago, no longer have any reserves to draw upon in case of need. The OHPs are going to be decommissioned within about a decade or so, and may go on a bit beyond their normal service life, but in any case, 30 ships will leave the fleet right there. The Ticonderogas will likely last somewhat longer, but they will eventually have to be phased out and replaced.
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Today I was reading here;

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That the USS Enterprise CVN-65 is preparing for a surge deployment. When and where I do not know.

During their in port period, Big E hosted a change of command ceremony for Commander, Fleet Forces Command, and held its own change of command ceremony for its new Commanding Officer, Capt. Ron Horton. For the next few weeks, Enterprise, along with embarked Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 1 will be conducting carrier qualifications, maintaining combat readiness for its upcoming surge deployment
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Ok...In that same article I read the make of the Enterprise strike group.

The Big E is the centerpiece of the Enterprise Carrier Strike Group, which also includes the guided-missile destroyers USS Arleigh Burke (DDG 51) and USS Stout (DDG 55), USS Forrest Sherman (DDG 98), and USS James E. Williams (DDG 95); the guided-missile cruiser USS Gettysburg (CG 64), the fast-attack submarine USS
Philadelphia (SSN 690) and the fast-combat supply ship USNS Supply (T-AOE 6).
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That CSG will have five Aegis ships. The normal CSG deploys with only three Aegis ships. I know the USS Kitty Hawk CV-63 strike group has 8 Aegis ships when at full strength. But they are homeported in Japan.

Anyone want to hazzard a guess as to why the CVN-65 CSG is deploying(Where??) with 5 Aegis class ship?
 
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