Aegis Type ships information
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bigstick61
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The sensors are not specifically listed in the article. However, after looking at the article for the Ticos, 4 SPG-62s are listed. The SPG-62 article mentions that it is a component of all Mk 99 FCS and is present on all AEGIS vessels. So the Burke article probably omitted it by mistake. So yes, the Burkes do have SPG-62 illuminators, likely four like on the Ticos.
szbd
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I also got confused on AN/SPQ-9 gun fire control radar and AN/SPS-67(V) or AN/SPS-67(V)surface search radar. Exactly what radars does Arleigh Burke have? Does it have AN/SPQ-9 or not? It has AN/SPS-64(V) or AN/SPS-67(V) or both? Which radar passes target information for CIWS? I don't mean actually control the CIWS but detect and track the target.
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I think Burke has 3 and Bazan class has 2.
Actually, someone who knows these systems well, I have a question. Do the SPY-1D provide mid course guidance for ESSM and SM-2 and SPG-62 provide the terminal illumination? If so, how many targets can be engaged at one time?
ff I went on a family day cruise on the Valley Forge back in 2003. It was the cleanest ship I was ever on. The crew was squared away. No need to put on a show for the visitors...I also worked on the now sunk Belleau Wood for the production of the movie "Antwone Fisher"..seemed to be some large open expanses on those ships. Plus the ramps..The hangar is too small for me.
I served 20 years active duty in the USN on board 5 CV's from 1971 'til 1991.
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In the future I feel the USN is planning to multi task the Arliegh Burkes for escort and other duties along with the LCS. I feel the USN has a lot invested in the LCS at this time and will not abandoned the program. In the future look for the LCS to be pre-positioned or foward deployed to Japan, Bahrain and Italy.
Just my opinion.
Good questions. In those couolmns I am defining any missile that can be controlled by the battle management system from the VLS tubes with a range at 50km or more as long range. The Evolved Sea Sparrow meets this criteria.
In the SR AAW column, I am considering anything that can be launched by the VLS system and controlled by the battle management system that can engage threats from the extent of the CIWS system out to 15-20 km. The Evolved Sea Sparrow also meets this criteria.
As to the Lanzhou or Type 52C, that is simply a typo that I will correct. To my knowledge there is no short range missile on those vessels and the HQ-9 is advertised as a medium to long range weapon. I will fix that ASAP...thanks for pointing it out.
Note, these two columns do not apply to the column for additional AAW missiles, where I am putting any additional missile systems that are not VLS, like the RAM systems on the Sachsen and other vessels.
Burkes definitely have 3 illuminators, 2 in the back, 1 in the front. (check any pic of burke for that) If missiles were to approach from the side of the ship, all 3 could be used. That would mean that at one time, up to 3 targets could be engaged by sm-2/essm simultaneously. One has to take into consideration the ability or inability of the attacker to time the missile approaches to the targeted ship so they all strike at the same moment. Cause even if we have missiles striking just few seconds apart, that "3 targets engaged simultaneously" can easely rise to 6 or 9 or more near simultaneously.
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I agree popeye. And here's the latest out of Korea on the KDX-III. Today in Korea:
Korean Times said:South Korea’s first 7,600-ton Aegis destroyer was launched during a commissioning ceremony at a shipyard of Hyundai Heavy Industries in Ulsan Friday. The ship was named after Sejong the Great of the Joseon Kingdom (1392-1910).
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Nice pic of an impressive vessel Jeff. Can't wait to sea it cruising on the high seas.
Regarding the Zumwalt. Because of the small numbers that will be build, I don't really exspect it to take over excort duties. They will most probably be reserved for some "special missions" in conjunction with the LCS, were it's stealth fuetures and massive armament bring the greatest benefit.
The LCS itself might be able to perfrom mine-hunting and ASW missions in escort duties pretty well I think.
But currrently I have the impression they lack the ability for big scale ASuW and AAW missions, since there seem to be no modules for bigger VLS ... ?
I read that there migh be an export version with the SPY-1F AEGIS version. This could also be fitted with VLS that can hold ESSM and Harpoons.
I would exspect that the LM design would be the option of chioce here. There seems to be more space for VLS.
Regarding the Zumwalt. Because of the small numbers that will be build, I don't really exspect it to take over excort duties. They will most probably be reserved for some "special missions" in conjunction with the LCS, were it's stealth fuetures and massive armament bring the greatest benefit.
The LCS itself might be able to perfrom mine-hunting and ASW missions in escort duties pretty well I think.
But currrently I have the impression they lack the ability for big scale ASuW and AAW missions, since there seem to be no modules for bigger VLS ... ?
I read that there migh be an export version with the SPY-1F AEGIS version. This could also be fitted with VLS that can hold ESSM and Harpoons.
I would exspect that the LM design would be the option of chioce here. There seems to be more space for VLS.
bigstick61
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That's how the Kinkaid was. Morale seemed very high, too. Complete opposite on the Boxer.
All flights have the AN/SPS-64(V)9 and the AN/SPS-67(V)3 surface search radars. For CIWS, I think that its onboard AN/VPS-2 radar detects, tracks, and provides fire control for the gun. They do have AN/SPQ-9s as well. In 1999 they began a program to integrate them into the AEGIS system to better protect against low-flying targets, esepcially in coastal areas.
That's what I think as well, although in my opinion, especially considering potential threats, that's not a good idea. As for LCS, it's not so much the Navy that could abandon the program. It's really Congress, which has become highly skeptical about the Navy's shipbuilding plans. I don't think they'll cut the program, but they may end up reducing numbers. DDX was originally supposed to be well over 20 ships, and now it's down to about 6, and Congress has indicated they may limit it to 2 ships. CGX may meet a similar fate for the same reasons DDX has.