27 dead, in Kunming railway station attack

SinoSoldier

Colonel
I think you'll remember that the people that killed Lee Rigby were quick to indicate personally they were terrorists. I still haven't heard anything from the people that carried out the attack or the group behind them. If this is an orchestrated attack, surely someone will claim credit for it. It doesn't make any sense to plan something major like this and be quiet about it.

Could this, for example, have been planned independently by a relatively small group of people without involvement from others? I never had the need to buy a knife when I was in China, but presumably it's not hard.

And therein lies the perpetual problem again. These attacks are terrorist attacks regardless of whether the perpetrators admit to them or not. And guess what, the T-shirts left on the scene is already a clear evidence of admittance by the attackers of their role and their intention in such an incident.

What if Al Qaeda never released a statement regarding 9/11? Then would that, by this "definition", be simply called an "incident" rather than a terrorist attack? What about Mumbai? The fact that the perpetrators in this case did not verbally make a statement has nothing to do with how the attack should be classified and thus how the response should be meted out.

The possibly of them being an "independent group" is irrelevant when what they carried out is defined as a terrorist attack. One can call AQ and Taliban "independent groups" as well but that makes no difference in their designation as a terrorist organization and the responses that should be carried out to deal with them.

If the United States government were the victims of attack, one can be darn sure that they won't give a flying eyeball whether the perpetrators were so keen on admitting their involvement or not when they send in their B-52s, which is what China should do in this case.
 

SinoSoldier

Colonel
Here's the vile statement from the WUC:

“We oppose any form of violence, and we also urge the Chinese government to ease systematic repression.” He added, “If this incident was really the work of Uighurs, then I can only say that it may be an extreme act by people who feel they cannot take it anymore.”

Here's my reply on NYmag.com

What a load of bullshit. A terrorist attack is a terrorist attack and the perpetrators deserve to be eliminated regardless of what their cause was and what the perpetrators perceive to be their rationale. To say that they "can't take it anymore" serves nothing more than a lame attempt to justify their actions while pretending that they are sympathetic towards the victims. If such a group made similar statements regarding US-based terrorist attacks, one can be sure that they will be eating a lot of hot metal from US bomber aircraft very soon, which I believe is what China should look to for a solution.
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
Sometimes it's a mystery why China is so keen on selling weapons to Turkey when their government openly declares verbal support of the ETIM and probably has deals with those extremists under the counter as well; it's about time China's intelligence groups made a serious case study on the hidden geopolitics and beliefs of the country.

Or possibly the attack is staged by outsiders as to make it seem like Turkey is in direct support of the ETIM in order to derail the missile deal?
 

siegecrossbow

General
Staff member
Super Moderator
“We oppose any form of violence, and we also urge the Chinese government to ease systematic repression.” He added, “If this incident was really the work of Uighurs, then I can only say that it may be an extreme act by people who feel they cannot take it anymore.”

"I am so oppressed that I can't take it any more. Seriously, I cannot. This is why I have to take it out on this total stranger at a train station! Nope. Not the government official, not the police, not even the chengguan. Just some random folks chilling out at the train station."

Do those people even think about the stuff they say?
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
They are at best terrorist apologists and sympathisers and at worst the terrorists' spokespeople, recruiters and fundraisers.

If their terrorist group targeted any western country, the lot of them would be getting water bounded and having their genitals electricuted in some CIA blacksite right now, which is probably the least some of them deserve.
 

chuck731

Banned Idiot
They are at best terrorist apologists and sympathisers and at worst the terrorists' spokespeople, recruiters and fundraisers.

If their terrorist group targeted any western country, the lot of them would be getting water bounded and having their genitals electricuted in some CIA blacksite right now, which is probably the least some of them deserve.


Islamic fundamentalist and their terrorists might be irritating, but they do not threaten western world's position at the top of world's economic and geopolitical totem pole. West's position in the world is not the World Trade Center.

China might seem to share much more with the west than the views espoused by Islamic fundamentalists, but china does offer the potential to threaten west's position in the worlld's economic and geopolitical totem pole.

So you tell me whether those in the west charged with maintaining the positions of their countries in the world would really like to support china in stamping out terrorism against china, or would not really be sad if Chinese difficulties with terrorism multiply.
 
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RickHunter

New Member
Stop your useless argument. New attack.
The terrorists tired to attack Fuzhou Airport . Fortunately, they were stopped by the police. Dozens of kinves were find in a car.
 
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Equation

Lieutenant General
Islamic fundamentalist and their terrorists might be irritating, but they do not threaten western world's position at the top of world's economic and geopolitical totem pole. West's position in the world is not the World Trade Center.

China might seem to share much more with the west than the views espoused by Islamic fundamentalists, but china does offer the potential to threaten west's position in the worlld's economic and geopolitical totem pole.

So you tell me whether those in the west charged with maintaining the positions of their countries in the world would really like to support china in stamping out terrorism against china, or would not really be sad if Chinese difficulties with terrorism multiply.

Actually the Islamic terrorists can bogged down the West by making them spend more money on security both domestically and abroad, therefore putting pressure on the budget, especially during this hard economic times.
 

chuck731

Banned Idiot
Actually the Islamic terrorists can bogged down the West by making them spend more money on security both domestically and abroad, therefore putting pressure on the budget, especially during this hard economic times.


The amount of money needed to keep a lid on the threat of Islamic terrorism to the west would be negligible next to the cost of a lengthy arms race as well diplomatic competition with china in the worst case scenario, from western perspective, of sino-American relationship in 15-20 years.

The worst case scenario is china becomes as inveterately hostile to the system of economy, finance and international relationships supported by the west as Soviet Union was, as well armed as Soviet Union was, and relative to the west, and with an economy relative to the west that is not only 5-10 times stronger than Soviet Union ever was, but exhibit far more economic dynamism than Soviet Union ever managed as well.
 

A.Man

Major
The Words Using by West Media

Left-Kunming Terror Attack, March 2, 2014

Right-Woolwich of England Terror Attack, May 22, 2013

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