Iran's industrial capacity has been hit. About 70% of steel production is offline or destroyed. Chemical precursors for explosives filler and rocket fuel are being imported. China is mercantile and its interests in the GCC are significantly greater than its interests in Iran. China doesn't do "donations" out of altruism.Why would external revenue even be the main issue right now?
As long as Iran’s internal industrial base is still functioning, it still has the stronger hand.
This is a country that ranks among the top 10 in the world in primary energy consumption.
How much bombing do people think it would take to actually grind that war machine to a halt, especially when the US is already burning through its own stockpiles at a stupid rate?
And those 10 or 20 ships that used to pass through for tolls are not some decisive factor.
Iran’s real economic lifeline is China.
And I do not believe for a second that China would hesitate to extend enough “humanitarian” goods, credit, or indirect support when US officials have basically admitted this whole theater, including Iran and even Venezuela, is part of a broader attempt to strangle China itself.
So the logic is not complicated.
If someone openly threatens to choke you to death, then gets stuck in a war and starts losing badly, and all you have to do is help the guy fighting him by passing along useful things from a distance, why would you not do it?
China is many things, but it is not some harmless Buddha floating above reality.
Iran has been under crippling sanctions for 40 years, if it was so easy to force capitulation on economic terms, Iran would have given up decades ago. Iran can fight for a very very long time because it's just drones and missiles at this point which is relatively cheap to produce.You're overlooking the fact that Iran is running out of storage space for extracted oil. When no more oil can be stored, wells will have to be stopped. This is often a permanent loss of the well. Iran won't be able to sustain fighting if they have no revenue.
Iran's industrial capacity has been hit. About 70% of steel production is offline or destroyed.
Chemical precursors for explosives filler and rocket fuel are being imported.
China is mercantile and its interests in the GCC are significantly greater than its interests in Iran. China doesn't do "donations" out of altruism.
China gives Iran 60 tonnes of humanitarian aid
Broski, be realistic.And as for “China is mercantile,” that is just lazy thinking.
No major state operates on some pure merchant calculator logic for centuries.
States weigh trade, security, leverage, geography, escalation, future balance, and long-term power all at once.
Pretending China only sees invoice totals is childish.
I certainly hope so. Iran's offensive strike frequency was already declining before the ceasefire.Iran has been under crippling sanctions for 40 years, if it was so easy to force capitulation on economic terms, Iran would have given up decades ago. Iran can fight for a very very long time because it's just drones and missiles at this point which is relatively cheap to produce.
Well yea, but don't forget, US goal was regime change via decapitation of top leaders and CIA-backed mass protests. All Iran needs to do is survive. US can't keep bombing Iran every 8 months, it needs enduring boots on the ground to truly pacify Iran.I certainly hope so. Iran's offensive strike frequency was already declining before the ceasefire.
You're overlooking the fact that Iran is running out of storage space for extracted oil. When no more oil can be stored, wells will have to be stopped. This is often a permanent loss of the well. Iran won't be able to sustain fighting if they have no revenue.
Broski, be realistic.
Between Saudi Arabia and Iran, who do you think has DF-21s? China would drop Iran for the GCC in a heartbeat if it had to choose between the two. In fact, China already threw Iran under the bus in 2019.
That sounds like saying China's intrested in SK is significantly greater than in NK, and China doesn't "donate". Yet China didn't hesitate to destroy SK's business in China, sanction SK of RE supply when SK choose to host THAAD. And China continiously "selling" oil to NK.China is mercantile and its interests in the GCC are significantly greater than its interests in Iran. China doesn't do "donations" out of altruism.
In all honesty, I don't think the US's strategic goals have remained static. For the US, the GCC and Iran blowing each other up and permanently crippling the energy extraction industry of the region may be sufficient.Well yea, but don't forget, US goal was regime change via decapitation of top leaders and CIA-backed mass protests. All Iran needs to do is survive. US can't keep bombing Iran every 8 months, it needs enduring boots on the ground to truly pacify Iran.
Personally, I still think escorting merchant shipping through the American blockade is the best way to break the system of their coersion.You know what Iran can easily do to solve their storage problem without needing to shut down the wells? Burn the excess output. This has been done many times in the past, most recently by the Russians following the fallout from the Ukraine war.
Oil revenue is only a factor when Iran needs to import things from abroad that it needs foreign currency for. For domestic spending they can literally print as much money as they want.
And if Iran needed that, I’m sure a certain superpower would be happy to provide some for future oil and gas supplies.
I would agree but China has STILL not escorted merchant shipping (even its own) through the American blockade. MUCH TO MY IMMENSE FRUSTRATION.Between Iran and Saudi Arabia right now, only someone half-dead in the brain would pick Saudi Arabia.
It is a sitting duck, no real military spine, no real structural depth, no serious economy beyond oil wealth and an inflated image.
And history is not kind to that type.
When you have a rich actor with a lot to show off but no serious ability to fight back, it usually ends one way: it becomes a piggy bank for whoever actually has power.
That is more or less the Saudi trajectory now with Iran, and we are already 95 percent there.
Its last real use at this point is to de-dollarize faster and move more of its trade with China into yuan if it wants to guarantee its own continued existence.
Because Saudi Arabia and GCC are not negotiating from leverage anymore.
It is negotiating from vulnerability, and its best path now is to drift away from the US and edge closer to Pakistan and China through the regional balance.
Investment volume is very different from giving one side strategic weapons that can strike the other's territory.That sounds like saying China's intrested in SK is significantly greater than in NK, and China doesn't "donate". Yet China didn't hesitate to destroy SK's business in China, sanction SK of RE supply when SK choose host THAAD.
Yes, China pays great attention to business, but China pays even higher attention to strategic alignment. You may be aware of the term 吃饭砸锅, China does not tolerate countries who want business benifit from China but stay on the US side.