I should have added "outside of China" for clarity. Obviously J-36 and J-50 are supersonic.
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2025 Victory Day parade thread (workup, 3rd Sept)
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Wait one, it might be unrelated, might have misinterpreted the photo and context
Why are the ztz99a not have aps and rcw and no signs of zbl 19 only zbl 8
There is a new eight wheeler with APS that is rumored to be optionally manned spotted, so I guess maybe this is going to take ZBL-19's place
Okay but all the ztz99a have no aps or rcw
If you're looking at low-tier attritable CCA, remember that they look very much like "reusable" cruise missiles.
Also, the Chinese version of the Shaheed/Geran was supposed to be displayed, but this has been cancelled due to perceived negative public relations impact abroad.
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Look at how the Russians have finally gotten around to launching launch salvoes of 600 missiles comprising Geran (~$40K?) and Gerbara (~$10K) piston-engine cruise missiles.
Yes, these are easy to shoot down. But they're so cheap, you don't mind this because it completely soaks up and saturates air defence capability ie. expensive ground-based SAMs and also aircraft launched AAMs.
This is now Russia's primary deep-strike capability against Ukraine, with 1 in 6 reaching their targets.
Rewatching Xi Yazhou and Yankee's pre-parade preview program, they used examples from previous parades to illustrate the PLA's level of secrecy:
1. DF-16 was first publicly revealed at the 2015 parade, but it had actually entered service around 2009. Many images believed to be of the DF-15C were actually of the DF-16. The appearance of the DF-17 in 2019 led outsiders to mistakenly believe it was a short-lived transitional product and subsequently forget about it.
2. air-launched YJ-12 was displayed at the 2015 parade, but the H-6 had already been carrying the YJ-12 on missions for some time. However, prior to this, there were virtually no images of the YJ-12 available online, with only one post from 2008 that few people noticed (This image first appeared on this forum in 2013)
3. Meanwhile (2015 Parade) the YJ-21 had already begun test firings.
1. DF-16 was first publicly revealed at the 2015 parade, but it had actually entered service around 2009. Many images believed to be of the DF-15C were actually of the DF-16. The appearance of the DF-17 in 2019 led outsiders to mistakenly believe it was a short-lived transitional product and subsequently forget about it.
2. air-launched YJ-12 was displayed at the 2015 parade, but the H-6 had already been carrying the YJ-12 on missions for some time. However, prior to this, there were virtually no images of the YJ-12 available online, with only one post from 2008 that few people noticed (This image first appeared on this forum in 2013)
3. Meanwhile (2015 Parade) the YJ-21 had already begun test firings.
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sources point to huge number of ballistic and hypersonic tests every year. The advantage lies in the underlying infrastructure: they built an entire vertical industry from academia to motors to test ranges.
By "YJ-21", you mean YJ-20 right? Since that's the designation we just saw two days ago.