Saddam was very badly hated by Iraqis. One major reason he was found in a spider hole and no major insurgent group even cared for his capture.
2025 Israel - Iranian conflict
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Seems they also have not invested in long range cruise missiles.
They are, but it takes Iran longer to hit them, compared to isreal who just takes on hit
Funny enough the Iranian government is the only one among them that came to power in a popular revolution and has elections of any kind.
If what he said is true, then his big mouth babbling is wasting a crucial tactical opportunity (for US). Fking moron king orange
Trump is threatening Supreme Leader Khamenei with "a good time" and he doesn't even know it.
The tragedy, if not irony of Trump's death threat against Khamenei is that from the perspective of a Shiite cleric who possesses deep faith in the prevailing monotheistic god of Abrahamic religious traditions, and who has devoted most of his life to serving said god — which some of us may refer to as Allah, even though Muslims have 99 names for Him — there is no honor greater or end nobler than martyrdom.
The US will need months, if not a year+, as well as the activation of large numbers of reservists, perhaps even from the IRR, to stage a "proper" ground invasion of Iran. We should all probably be able to agree that Trump has no appetite or patience for such lengthy complications, and that the Israel Lobby isn't looking to wait for the White House to act next year when Iranian missiles are penetrating Israeli air defenses as we speak.
Someone has probably also convinced Trump that a significant deployment of ground troops will be unnecessary for subduing Iran, as that's exactly something Trump will want to hear before granting his buy-in for such a hot war.
Therefore, we are not going to see multiple BCTs and MEUs blitzkrieg into Iran, at least not this turn, especially as there currently isn't even an American ally in the neighborhood that will let hundreds of thousands of American troops and contractors assemble on their territory to stage such a theoretical ground invasion.
What Trump is most likely hoping for is something akin to the air war NATO waged against Serbia in 1999 that more or less formalized the independence of Kosovo, and toppled the Milosevic government resulting in his subsequent extradition to the Hague; or the 2011 conflict where domestic rebels aided by Western air strikes and SOF removed Gaddafi from power, and which also descended Libya into a civil war and anarchy that it has yet to recover from.
TBF, we probably should acknowledge that there is a significant chance that a limited number of US military personnel — operating under non-official cover and perhaps even posing as third country nationals — are already conducting what are known as advanced force operations inside Iran. Talking guys and girls managed by programs like DASR, so units and operations rarely, if at all explicitly acknowledged during public discourse.
Though depending on the targets that CENTCOM will want to prioritize kinetic effects against, the US might be able to fully or partially rely on Israeli operatives and assets — who are generally considered more experienced than their American counterparts at running operations in certain denied areas like Iran — for AFO missions out there, much of which will likely be CTR for triggering kinetic strikes assuming the upcoming party stays air centric.
Lastly, there is a not insignificant chance that certain units from JSOC or even "white SOF" elements like the 5th and 10th SFGs' Critical Threats Advisory Companies — which are known for developing specialized capabilities like breeching and raiding UGFs — will conduct direct action operations against Iranian ground targets of the highest priority.
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At least these Shah loving people that are living in the west (Canada, U.S.) will be ecstatic that their country is going to be free from the Ayatollah loving Iranians.
What little did they know or realize is that half of the Iranians don't have love or any fond memories from the rule of the equally despotic Shah.
Their country is going to be in ruins much like Libya, Syria that came before them and then only they'll realize what fools they have been all these times. But by the time the realization sets in, it's terribly too late for them. What bloody fools!!
Indeed, just as with Desert Storm, it takes months to organize a proper invasion force, but every day that goes by is another day for Iran to grow stronger and more consolidated.Trump is threatening Supreme Leader Khamenei with "a good time" and he doesn't even know it.
The tragedy, if not irony of Trump's death threat against Khamenei is that from the perspective of a Shiite cleric who possesses deep faith in the prevailing monotheistic god of Abrahamic religious traditions, and who has devoted most of his life to serving said god — which some of us may refer to as Allah, even though Muslims have 99 names for Him — there is no honor greater or end nobler than martyrdom.
The US will need months, if not a year+, as well as the activation of reservists to stage a "proper" ground invasion of Iran.
Someone has probably also convinced Trump that a significant deployment of ground troops will be unnecessary for subduing Iran, as that's exactly something Trump will want to hear before granting buy-in for a hot war against Iran.
We are not going to see multiple BCTs and MEUs blitzkrieg into Iran, at least not this turn, especially as there currently isn't even an American ally in the neighborhood that will let hundreds of thousands of American troops and contractors assemble on their territory to stage such a theoretical ground invasion.
What Trump is most likely hoping for is something akin to the air war NATO waged against Serbia in 1999 that more or less formalized the independence of Kosovo, and toppled the Milosevic government resulting in his subsequent extradition to the Hague; or the 2011 conflict where domestic rebels aided by Western air strikes and SOF removed Gaddafi from power, and which also sent the country into a civil war and anarchy that it has yet to recover from.
TBF, we probably should acknowledge that there is a significant chance that a limited number of US military personnel — operating under non-official cover and perhaps even posing as third country nationals — are already conducting what are known as advanced force operations inside Iran. Talking guys and girls managed by programs like DASR, so units and operations rarely, if at all explicitly acknowledged during public discourse.
Though depending on the targets that CENTCOM will want to prioritize kinetic effects against, the US might be able to fully or partially rely on Israeli operatives and assets — who are generally considered more experienced than their American counterparts at running operations in certain denied areas like Iran — for AFO missions out there, much of which will likely be CTR for triggering kinetic strikes assuming the upcoming party stays air centric.
Lastly, there is a not insignificant chance that certain units from JSOC or even "white SOF" elements like the 5th and 10th SFGs' Critical Threats Advisory Companies — which are known for developing specialized capabilities like breeching and raiding UGFs — will conduct direct action operations against Iranian ground targets of the highest priority.
It gives them time to weed out infiltrators and saboteurs, solidify public support, purge military leadership that is either incompetent and/or not completely on their side, secure support from allies, as well as shift to a war economy and fully mobilize.
Either Iran collapses now or within the next few weeks, or we are going to potentially be dealing with an entirely different beast by the time the US is fully prepared to invade.
FriedRiceNSpice
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BMs are faster than jets, just not as fast as prepositioned assets using small drones, car bombs, and short range ATGMs.