2025 Israel - Iranian conflict

Sheleah

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Confirmed: Major Gen. Hossein Salami, head of IRGC has been killed in Israeli airstrike. Reuters reports Iranian state media confirmed his death.

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The level of infiltration in Iran is high, everything has been coordinated with Mossad field operators...

China is the non-Western country that has killed foreign spies effectively, and they must continue to hunt down and eliminate spies, as Russia and Iran have paid dearly for poor intelligence.
 

tamsen_ikard

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The level of infiltration in Iran is high, everything has been coordinated with Mossad field operators...

China is the non-Western country that has killed foreign spies effectively, and they must continue to hunt down and eliminate spies, as Russia and Iran have paid dearly for poor intelligence.
The question is not what they know about you, but what you know about them. Yes, Iran has been infiltrated but why can't they infiltrate Israel to the same level?
 

TPenglake

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Russia has already critically wounded (1.5M), displaced (1.3M) or captured (2.9M) half of the entire working age male Ukrainian population (5.7M out of 11.1M) based on western reports, as of last year.

Russia has lost a negligible % of its working age male population in comparison.

This is demographically one of the most brutal wars in history.

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Russia recently drove a freezer truck filled with 1k+ Ukrainian bodies up to the border, asking Ukraine to pick up its dead. Ukraine didn't. And Ukraine also couldn't show an equivalent casualty infliction, neither by total nor proportional body count. If it could, it would.

It is just that this level of casualties would've made anyone else surrender, even the Nazi Germans, but west worship is a hell of a drug. All that means though is that by the time Ukraine surrenders, it'd be demographically ruined.
Okay, so Russia did all that to the population of Europe's poorest country, a corrupt shithole that never exactly flowed with milk and honey to begin with, at the expense of almost all their Soviet stockpiles.

What of the USA, what of Western Europe? Ie. the real players in this whole game.
 

AndrewJ

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Russia should've done the same against Ukraine in its war and still has not been able to, even after 3 years of fighting. Goes to show Western military doctrine is still not to be under-estimated.

Guancha Trios once mentioned, Russia doesn't have a strategic Air Force. Their advanced jets are too few, no matter stealth/non-stealth fighters, EW planes, or AEW&C planes, to conduct large-scale SEAD & DEAD operations at the begining of a war. So their planes are always struggling above Ukraine later on. Could only fly one or two planes each time to conduct some air support strike, and got shot down very often.

If RAF got total Air Superiority above Ukraine, the war wouldn't last till now.

That's just what PLAAF is trying to avoid. PLAAF already builds a fleet consisting of thousands of 4+/5 gen planes, and continues moving on.
 
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FairAndUnbiased

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Okay, so Russia did all that to the population of Europe's poorest country, a corrupt shithole that never exactly flowed with milk and honey to begin with, at the expense of almost all their Soviet stockpiles.

What of the USA, what of Western Europe?
I don't think western Europe is actually militarily stronger than Ukraine, especially in an ground/air war. Look at how terrible the Rafale turned out to be in Pakistan and how France ran out of supplies even attacking Libya.
 

Mmmeeeto

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The level of infiltration in Iran is high, everything has been coordinated with Mossad field operators...

China is the non-Western country that has killed foreign spies effectively, and they must continue to hunt down and eliminate spies, as Russia and Iran have paid dearly for poor intelligence.
The amount of the Iranian population that is anti IR is massive. It's only expected to have this kind of problem. In fact khamanei always mentions them in his speeches as "hypocrites" as much as he mentions America or Israel.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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They have a good military, but terrible leadership, planning and intelligence. China needs to teach them a thing or two about weeding out spies and protecting their leadership. As of right now Iran might as well just stick their scientists and leaders out on a ledge and slap them with a “hit me” sign.
Russian military is good, but with poor leadership.

Iranian military is bad, with worse leadership.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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I’m hoping for Iran’s sake that this is just surface damage and they still have most of their capabilities intact, within reinforced shelters or underground. And they likely do. Just like when Ukraine hits huge ammo depots in Russia, yet has little to no effect on the front, as most of their exposed stuff is just what they either have an excess of, or were about to actively use at the time, I assume the same applies to Iran.
Highly doubtful tbh. For reference just check with your local Iranian diaspora: most of them are full of themselves and high on their past glory. Don't even get me started on the Shah fanatics.
 
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