The line of reasoning after the J-10C export success is that foreign clients are more accepting of gear in service with the PLA instead of export oriented products.
2024 Zhuhai Airshow main thread, Air Systems
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The line of reasoning after the J-10C export success is that foreign clients are more accepting of gear in service with the PLA instead of export oriented products.
Do you really need a serial aircraft for an acrobatic flight display?.
The PR would've been bad regardless of what was brought.
There is an enormous customer base for bashing Russia that would've found an angle to criticize Russia regardless of what Sukhoi brought. Even if there was a Su-57M on display, I'm sure someone, even in this thread, would've brought up some alleged defect regarding stealth treatments, rivets, rounded surfaces, or whatever.
That's just simply the way things are today, unfortunately.
Someone made a meme report of Su-57 defecting to Hokkaido based on Zhuhai Airshow image.
Given how serial su-57s look, they aren't that easy to bash. At least, not for basic finish quality.
This may have been a consideration, though - t-50-4's signature is corrupted enough to send it without concerns.
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And how many countries with their own 5th gen fighters are allied with countries that also have their own 5th gen designs?
Nobody is saying Su-57M has parity with J-20, that's some ultimate strawman.
It's presence in Zhuhai no matter how you spin it is still a signficant prestige for China - as of 2024 no other nation (besides Russia) can boast an airshow like this, with allied 5th gen designs flying alongside eachother.
Nobody is saying Su-57M has parity with J-20, that's some ultimate strawman.
It's presence in Zhuhai no matter how you spin it is still a signficant prestige for China - as of 2024 no other nation (besides Russia) can boast an airshow like this, with allied 5th gen designs flying alongside eachother.
All the people who mock Su-57 forget that:
1) F-35’s only real aerial kills are against drones.
2) F-22’s only real aerial kill is against a balloon.
3) J-20 has no real aerial kill.
At least Su-57 is rumored to have nailed enemy fourth gen during combat. If we go by the fanboy logic that only real combat counts then it is by far the most potent fifth gen.
1) F-35’s only real aerial kills are against drones.
2) F-22’s only real aerial kill is against a balloon.
3) J-20 has no real aerial kill.
At least Su-57 is rumored to have nailed enemy fourth gen during combat. If we go by the fanboy logic that only real combat counts then it is by far the most potent fifth gen.
I'm surprised that there is discussion about Su-57 appearing at Zhuhai to begin with.
There's nothing about the aircraft which is new which we will learn at Zhuhai, and appearing at the airshow is entirely reasonable, including as a prototype form.
My response has been "huh neat" and that's been about it. I can't see what else there is to really chew on.
There's nothing about the aircraft which is new which we will learn at Zhuhai, and appearing at the airshow is entirely reasonable, including as a prototype form.
My response has been "huh neat" and that's been about it. I can't see what else there is to really chew on.
This is why I hate fanboys.
more SU-57 Prototype
Static display SU-57