2022 Olympic Winter Games Beijing

NiuBiDaRen

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What’s important is that history is made. No one complained when Su Bingtian made it to the finals but didn’t win.
This different tho. It's not black people. If all the top sprinters r white people they'll say Su is good but not quite good enough to win.

But they're black so they're like Su is the Asian god because blacks have some supposed mythic aura in sprinting/running.
 

SanWenYu

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I don't know why but seem like women in China do better than men. Volley ball is another example. China is champion for women's volley ball but their men counterpart is nowhere. Is China's women too strong or world's women too weak?
I am not sure about differences in physique. But I'd like to give my 2 cents from the history and social status point of view.

The western countries (including Japan and Russia) started participating most modern sports much earlier than China, not to mention many of these sports were invented by westerners. But since the inception and for long time, most sports were exclusively for men. Meaningful participation by women only started as women got their social status equal to men. In most countries, that was after year 1900 or even later.

In China, modern sports started roughly around the time when the Qing dynasty was replaced by ROC in year 1911. Same as in most countries, the first participants were mostly men. Even among the Chinese males at the time, there were only very few could take part in sports because of extreme poverty, widespread undernutrition and the backward conservative mainstream culture of the time.

Fortunately for Chinese women, they gained the equal social status as Chinese men when the PRC was established in 1949. CPC has been taking sports participation by women seriously as a way to promote female liberation.

So in most modern sports, participation by Chinese men started probably 100 or even more years later than western men did, while the Chinese women started like 50 or less years later than the western women did.

In general, I would say that, for the Chinese male players, the gap in experience and knowledge between them and their competitors, are still greater than that for the female players.

This is of course not an execuse for the Chinese men's soccer players. They are beyond comprehension.
 

Godzilla

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What’s important is that history is made. No one complained when Su Bingtian made it to the finals but didn’t win.
Definitely, really shows China's progress in the last decades. Winter Olympics is like the rich people's Olympics. Just having increased participation in stuff like these free style snowboard/ skiing and having the venues within China for people to do this shows the disposable income available to the Chinese middle class. like Japan where every weekend during the snow season, you see lots of Japanese parents take their kids out to the slopes for family bonding, and some of those kids are friken awesome. We are seeing alot more of this kinda thing in China now too and it can only be a good thing, if a few extra medals comes along with it, all the better. I am sure in the next decades we'll see the results come in.
 

Century2030

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IMO Chinese athletes are at a disadvantage in sports where the scoring is decided by the judges as favoritism can come into play.
Happened in Tokyo 2020 with the mens gymnastics event as well. I think Asians do better in sports with metric goal-based scoring system.
For example, events like badmintion or table tennis where players just need to hit the ball to the other side to score a point. Those kind of games would be more fair overall.
 

victoon

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My point is western msm is highlighting this story with ill intentions. Generally speaking, social media being toxic is common in every country around the world. Yet looking at western media coverage of this makes it seem like it's exclusive to China, which isn't true. I do agree that we should do better and be kind towards our compatriots. I've looked up this story on baidu (China's google) and the news article mentioned Weibo stepped in and cleaned it up which is a good thing. And another skater on the national team talked to the media and vouched for her. So overall this story is a minor issue, not a big deal..
these demonization troubles me just as much. sometimes the anger can be torturous. But after years of struggle, I have made my peace. I accept that there is nothing I can do to change the west. But maybe, just maybe, I can bring a little bit more love, compassion, and rationality to my own people/country.

I know a lot of great compatriots fight those disinformation/bias on twitter. I have felt the urge to do that too sometimes. But I chose not to. Because I thought western idiots are even better allays than our great friend Russia (although Russia might have contributed to turning these fine God loving people to idiots). I just feel lucky for China that we have those awesome Republican law makers today.
 

victoon

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Alex is my role model.

Nationalism is damn hard to get right. But Alex does it with perfection. I have read every one of his articles in the last two years and every time come away inspired and encouraged. It amazes me that he writes with no hate, no anger, no bitterness. Instead he defend China with thoughtfulness, knowledge, insanely precise argument and presentation.

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