2022 Olympic Winter Games Beijing

Kaeshmiri

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Always the Chinese female teams are better than the male teams.

Chinese female basketball, volleyball, soccer, curling are all top in the world but the men's teams all suck.

Why?

Even when China had Yao Ming, Yi Jianlian and another two NBA players they still severely underperformed. They did worse than teams with fewer or no NBA players.
Chinese male soccer team is an absolute disaster. Got beaten by Vietnam few days ago. The entire administrative hierarchy of Chinese soccer team should be sacked. Billions of investment and thats what they come up with.
 

getready

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The Chinese Ice Hockey team (men's and women's) have 28 naturalized players in total, 22 of them have Chinese ancestors. Most of these naturalized players came from Canada and the US, one from Russia. I am not a hockey fan so I cannot tell how good they are from this brief Chinese introduction of them:

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Thanks. That's a very informative article. I didn't realize even the women's team have this many naturalised players. I watched a brief CCTV video on Chinese ice hockey recently. One interesting info they mentioned is like 80percent of the players in Chinese women team are from shenzhen.

I thought thats abit strange since shenzhen is warm place. Not the first city I think of winter sports. Usually Chinese ice skaters are from dong bei area. Provinces in North East.

After reading that, seems like cuz they are players in team based in shenzhen. I dun know much about the ice hockey situation in China or well anywhere else actually. But seem like shenzhen benefit from being a fairly rich new city so they attract players and teams?
 

getready

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I hope China doesn't rely upon foreign naturalized players too much. China uses a lot of them in soccer but they still get destroyed by other Asian country's soccer teams. IMO they should focus more on getting coaches and building a sport's culture instead of copying Arabs i.e. trying to buy foreign talent instead of developing themselves. Not that I particularly care about sports, but China should adopt a philosophy analogous to its own industrial and technological development and instead of relying upon foreigners focus upon self-improvement instead.
The naturalised strategy is fairly recent. We need to give it time. Before the soccer federation were pretty strict due to country no dual citizenship policy and other reasons, they didn't go down this route but the men's soccer team still failed badly.

Of course china should not rely on it wholly, I think no country should even Qatar probably don't and they have alot of naturalised players.

I think china can benefit from it like how Japan did with their Brazilian players. It helps to improve the overall quality and play. Just don't overdo it is the key. I actually thought there was good progress since the policy was enacted. A few bad results are expected. Plus li tie is a rookie manager, there was too much expectations.
 

getready

Senior Member
Always the Chinese female teams are better than the male teams.

Chinese female basketball, volleyball, soccer, curling are all top in the world but the men's teams all suck.

Why?

Even when China had Yao Ming, Yi Jianlian and another two NBA players they still severely underperformed. They did worse than teams with fewer or no NBA players.
Not always. chinese men gymnastics team historically perform better than female counterparts. Weightlifting men team too unless manqiang corrects me. Diving is pretty even.

the examples you named are more extreme ones, so no argument. But not sure why you mentioned the men bball team, at least they reigned in Asia region during Yao, wang and yi era, something the mens footbal team can’t even achieve .
 

NiuBiDaRen

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Considering how bad Asia is at ice hockey, I propose that Japan Korea and China form an ice hockey pro league. China has an ice hockey pro league but it's anaemic.

Good for sports, good for diplomacy, good for business.

Why not?

There can be like 3 or 4 teams from Japan, 1 or 2 from Korea, and 12 from China. The revenues should more than cover the air travel expenses.

Maybe have 1 team from Hokkaido and 1 from Tokyo. Sounds fun.
 
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