2022 Olympic Winter Games Beijing

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AssassinsMace said:
Interesting how we haven't heard Eileen Gu's father's position. All I've read is that he wasn't there to help raise his daughter. In the US that's called a deadbeat dad which would be a reason why the US media isn't talking about him and reluctant to because that doesn't help patriotic Americans' case against Eileen Gu. I'm sure someone is searching for him to smear his daughter.
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With the bio clock ticking, she may have went with sperm donor. I have known asian females that talked about wanting half caucasian babies etc
 
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manqiangrexue said:
On Nathan Chen, all Chinese people who represent America, and even all Asian people who represent America, they are a disgrace and a terrible burden on the public views of Asians.
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What???
manqiangrexue said:
First of all, while they might be the ones on that podium, after the event is done, nobody cares who won what.
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Americans don't care much about the Olympics and most gold medalists remain anonymous. the ones remembered tend to be multiple medal winners or ones with long careers.
manqiangrexue said:
The medals just become numbers and they count to prop up numbers for Caucasian countries rather than Asian countries. In other words, after they walk home with that medal, people digging up wiki think white people beat Chinese people when they see, for example, the US top the medals list above China. Very rarely do people analyze and figure out that of all the gold medals between the US and China, Asians took most of them.
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not true. Asians are definitely minority in US Olympic athletes. Asians tend to concentrate in fewer sports and sports less popular in the US.
manqiangrexue said:
So despite winning, because they represented the US instead of China or Korea, they perpetuate the myth that Asians are unathletic.
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there may be such a myth and it may have anything to do with US winning more gold than east Asians. But this is mostly because China (which has 90% of all east Asians) has been poor for a long time. (Poor South Asians rarely win medals. But They have the best mountain climbers in the world.) With more money and a good sports institutes/culture, China will dominate more and more sports. Chinese people work harder and smarter is the right way to go. Blaming Chinese in other countries taking medals seems lame.
manqiangrexue said:
Secondly, even if people see Asian Americans on that podium and realize their athletic talent, it is absolutely nothing compared to the negative influence this has. It tells society that Asians are too mentally weak and leg-hugging to go back home and stand up; even if you commit hate crimes against them and send their grandparents to the hospital, they will still do your bidding as loyal servants and they will do it against their own blood, because they have no love or respect for who they really are. This is far uglier an image than being unathletic, especially in a world where brains increasingly defeat brawn in all aspects that matter.
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for Chinese born and raised in the US, US is their home. Most of them understandability want to stay and fight for justice in their own country. Asians own a piece of the US (or any other country). They are not slaves of White masters. They are fully capable and entitled to choose their own fate on earth.

Australia was alarmed by the sheer number of Chinese immigrants and starting to put up barriers. Imagine what would happen if one day Australia is 51% Chinese!
manqiangrexue said:
On Ailin Gu, I have neither affection nor disdain for her. She's half Chinese; this year, she brought China a gold medal and set American haters on fire. I appreciate what she did and recognize her as a positive influence overall this year (who knows where she goes in the future), but I judge heroes by their intent, not just their result. I don't believe that her family is patriotic or that they cared to serve China. I strongly believe that they are smart people who realized that this girl could be a bigger hit in China than she could ever have been in the US, and that simple calculation could not possibly have been more correct. Ailin would never have been a bigger celebrity than any NFL/NBA/MLB MVP in the US no matter how may gold medals she can win, but now, she is the biggest trending star in China and likely the world. These people chose to go to China because it served their interests, and I believe that if they thought she would be richer/more popular in the US, they would have done that.

My name has an exceptionally rare character. It is
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. Literally, it means bird of prey, most commonly an owl, (as it is a pictogram of a bird perched upon the tip of a tree) but the word is sometimes interpreted ominously and associated with evil. My father insisted on this character against the wishes of everyone else in the family. The name-rater they hired quit in frustration saying that he could be of no use if my father was this stubborn. Only when I became an adult did he explain to me why he made that choice. He explained that the
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character was used to describe the Dark Warlord of Feudal China: Cao Cao. Expanded, it was
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, which was the opposite, in some respects, to the hero. As best I can think of, there is no suitable English translation. He said he chose this word for me because he wanted me to achieve my goals like a
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, successful, but selfish. While a hero would sacrifice everything, maybe even his life to achieve his goal, a
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would succeed while preserving, maybe even enriching himself. Right now, I can think of no better people who fit the description of
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than Ailin Gu, her mother, and grandmother.
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I don't know if you like reading history or not. Deng fixed the economic problems from the Mao era because he realized that when the Chinese people optimize for their self interest (within legal and moral boundaries of course), it's also the best for the country. Gu's move creates the most value for herself. CCP's job is not to ask every Chinese around the world to only work for the PRC. CCP's job is creating an environment where more and more Chinese (or non-Chinese) can create more value in China.

Also, when Gu switched allegiance, there were no guarantee how good she would become. Given she spent every summer (2 months) in China, I have no doubt she has genuine connection to and love for China. To me her biggest contribution to China is not the medals, but her contribution to snow sports in China and being a true inspiration to young people, especially girls, to take risks and be independent. Another important contribution is her action encourage more oversea China to hedge and maintain a strong tie to China. It would be smart for PRC to take advantage of the momentum and make things easier (some people on the forum suggested dual citizenship for everyone)
 
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victoon said:
What???

Americans don't care much about the Olympics and most gold medalists remain anonymous. the ones remembered tend to be multiple medal winners or ones with long careers.

not true. Asians are definitely minority in US Olympic athletes. Asians tend to concentrate in fewer sports and sports less popular in the US.

there may be such a myth and it may have anything to do with US winning more gold than east Asians. But this is mostly because China (which has 90% of all east Asians) has been poor for a long time. (Poor South Asians rarely win medals. But They have the best mountain climbers in the world.) With more money and a good sports institutes/culture, China will dominate more and more sports. Chinese people work harder and smarter is the right way to go. Blaming Chinese in other countries taking medals seems lame.

for Chinese born and raised in the US, US is their home. Most of them understandability want to stay and fight for justice in their own country. Asians own a piece of the US (or any other country). They are not slaves of White masters. They are fully capable and entitled to choose their own fate on earth.

Australia was alarmed by the sheer number of Chinese immigrants and starting to put up barriers. Imagine what would happen if one day Australia is 51% Chinese!

I don't know if you like reading history or not. Deng fixed the economic problems from the Mao era because he realized that when the Chinese people optimize for their self interest (within legal and moral boundaries of course), it's also the best for the country. Gu's move creates the most value for herself. CCP's job is not to ask every Chinese around the world to only work for the PRC. CCP's job is creating an environment where more and more Chinese (or non-Chinese) can create more value in China.

Also, when Gu switched allegiance, there were no guarantee how good she would become. Given she spent every summer (2 months) in China, I have no doubt she has genuine connection to and love for China. To me her biggest contribution to China is not the medals, but her contribution to snow sports in China and being a true inspiration to young people, especially girls, to take risks and be independent. Another important contribution is her action encourage more oversea China to hedge and maintain a strong tie to China. It would be smart for PRC to take advantage of the momentum and make things easier (some people on the forum suggested dual citizenship for everyone)
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manqiangrexue himself either studies and/or works in America currently or in the past, so one could be forgiven to think there is a tad bit of irony or hypocrisy in his statement that "Nathan Chen, all Chinese people who represent America, and even all Asian people who represent America, they are a disgrace and a terrible burden on the public views of Asians."....

I agree with his assessment but with the understanding that being a Chinese American working a typical job (say Software Engineer at Microsoft, or some network/sys admin at some IT company, or some CPA for some firm etc) doesn't rise to the level of racial betrayal compared to Olympic gold medal winner or helping the US develop hypersonic weapons that will be used against the motherland etc.... Because lets face it, the vast majority of Chinese American's won't be like a Eileen Gu or Nathan Chen or Qian Xuesen etc... most typical Chinese Americans simply aren't capable and aren't in position to make such outstanding contributions to America even if they wanted to, so their level or threshold of racial betrayal is far lower on the grand scheme of things...
 
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CCP shills caught on camera.

Aaron Blunck, Half-pipe athlete of the US team, made this comment on Feb 13:
As far as China, being here for Beijing 2022, they have honestly done a stellar job with the whole COVID protocol. I didn't really know what to expect. Being in the State's side you kind of heard some pretty bad media and that is completely false. It's actually been phenomenal, everybody from staff to COVID testers. It's probably one of the better Olympics that we've been to.
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His teammate Alex Ferreira:
I just think all the people and staff within the Olympics village are so genuine and kind. And they're such a happy [sic]. They are always waving their hands so excited. It's just refreshing and nice to see.
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