09V/09VI (095/096) Nuclear Submarine Thread

Maikeru

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you are the senior member of this forum. you should have check previous massages.

check page 102 of this thread.

see this ..




@Patchwork_Chimera sir confirmed this news. @tphuang sir's source also confirmed

type 095 first unit construction has begun.
I wonder if the 12m hull sections are actually for the 2 new 094'B's that Patch's source mentioned, rather than 095? Guess we'll see.
 

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I wonder if the 12m hull sections are actually for the 2 new 094'B's that Patch's source mentioned, rather than 095? Guess we'll see.
how can it be 094B when we know the pressure hull of 094B is less than that? If they are doing trial production of pressure hull segment of 095 or 096, then that dimension would jive quite well with what we expect. Having said that, it will be a while until 1 launches I think. Building the first 095 isn't the same as building more 093B.
 

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Does anyone knows if there has been any recent rumour/signal about the status of type 095 or 096 ?

So, this part of the question is fine.
Asking for an update is reasonable, and a fair question.


Does anyone knows if the projects are still a priority at this point?

This part however, is very presumptive.

Because it conveys:
- that you believed we had any sort of "past reliable prediction" of when 09V/09VI would emerge to begin with, and thus...
- that you believe there were "expectations" that are currently "not being met"
- and in turn implying there is some sort of deficiency or change in status of the projects


So to answer your question: we never had any clear past prediction or projection for when 09V/09VI would emerge by to begin with, so we can't make any statements as to what its present status is relative to the past, even based on the more up to date information we have.
 

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I hardly ever stumble on this thread cuz nothing ever happens here. but today I came here and found out that type 95 has finished development. holy jesus if CHina can pump these babies out this changes the game in the Western Pacific.

BEST NEWS IN A WHILE!!!

It's yet to be confirmed, so I would temper your expectations just a little bit.

With nuclear submarines, we only count them after they've emerged and launched, and even at that time chances are we won't know what their capabilities are for a long time.

It's possible those segments are for 09V, or they might not be, or they might not be hull modules intended to be assembled into a real submarine at all (e.g.: demo module).


Safer to wait and see.

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Posting the actual GE images here so we have a record of it, rather than just a quoted tweet.

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ACuriousPLAFan

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Updated imaginary on pressure hull modules. More 12m segments that are probably aimed for 095.
It's yet to be confirmed, so I would temper your expectations just a little bit.

With nuclear submarines, we only count them after they've emerged and launched, and even at that time chances are we won't know what their capabilities are for a long time.

It's possible those segments are for 09V, or they might not be, or they might not be hull modules intended to be assembled into a real submarine at all (e.g.: demo module).


Safer to wait and see.

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Posting the actual GE images here so we have a record of it, rather than just a quoted tweet.

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If the 095 SSNs already have approximately 12 meters of hull diameter, then the 096 SSBNs can be expected to have an even larger hull diameter, no?

The Ohios, Columbias and Boreis have around 13.1 - 13.5 meters of hull diameter in comparison.

Perhaps having a hull diameter of 13-14 meters might be indicative of the length of the JL-3 SLBMs that are to be used on the 096 SSBNs?
 

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If the 095 SSNs already have approximately 12 meters of hull diameter, then the 096 SSBNs can be expected to have an even larger hull diameter, no?

The Ohios, Columbias and Boreis have around 13.1 - 13.5 meters of hull diameter in comparison.

Perhaps having a hull diameter of 13-14 meters might be indicative of the length of the JL-3 SLBMs that are to be used on the 096 SSBNs?

Maybe.
But like I said, I think it's better to not speculate too many steps ahead yet on our own dime.

We have some rumours that 09V will have a 12m hull diameter for a single hull design, and the picture of possible hull modules are that size but we don't know if the hull modules are for it.

For 09VI, we should wait for additional rumours in their own right, I think.
I *personally* think a 09VI with a larger hull diameter of 13m class would make sense, but it's possible they go for the same hull as 09V as well.

Can we tell it is single hull or double hull from the latest photo?

We can't even fully tell if it's definitely a submarine hull module in the latest photo.

That said, the cross sectional view does show us an outline of the "hull" and it looks like it is only a single hull (i.e.: it doesn't seem to be an inner pressure hull and outer hydrodynamic hull/casing).
But we don't know if the "hull" is a pressure hull or not.
And even if it is a pressure hull, that technically doesn't rule out the possibility that it could have a hydrodynamic hull/casing assembled around it later.
 
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