09III/09IV (093/094) Nuclear Submarine Thread
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I can't access the two links, but I found another site with the photos.
The first two photos show a visible hump (VLS?) just behind the sail about half the length of the sail.
It is also worth to note that there seems to be no windows (right term?) on the sail.
The third thing is the visible curve at the front of the sail, both top and bottom, a consideration of hydrodynamics.
The fourth is long hump at the bow, alleged to be some kind of acoustic device. The holes are rearranged accordingly.
Note, the fourth photo is 09 III (093)
It seems that 09III class including its improved variant is officially declassified. Great news.
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Only side view yet posted i have clean and blackened
Thinking 2 row of 6 missiles in the VLS or eventualy a little more ? next drawing for comparison for have an idea but true VLS is less long, so logicaly less missiles.
The CJ-10 or ? is more big as a Tomahawk 1.8 t, 7.2 m x 0.5/0.7 m + capsule, 1500/2000 km, warhead 500 kg, cep 5/10 m, US 1.4 ; 6.2 x 0.533 ; 1700 km, 450 kg, cep 7/8 m.
YJ-12 at less long as a Tomahawk but wider as a CJ-10 i have.
Henri K say possible one type of laucher for each type of missile, unusual.
Except VLS this view is enough close, pump jet ??? ...
Thinking 2 row of 6 missiles in the VLS or eventualy a little more ? next drawing for comparison for have an idea but true VLS is less long, so logicaly less missiles.
The CJ-10 or ? is more big as a Tomahawk 1.8 t, 7.2 m x 0.5/0.7 m + capsule, 1500/2000 km, warhead 500 kg, cep 5/10 m, US 1.4 ; 6.2 x 0.533 ; 1700 km, 450 kg, cep 7/8 m.
YJ-12 at less long as a Tomahawk but wider as a CJ-10 i have.
Henri K say possible one type of laucher for each type of missile, unusual.
Except VLS this view is enough close, pump jet ??? ...
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Yet 3 to 4 093B right now, i have number 413 - 416, 094 build before are 409 - 412, 093B can have to launched end 2011 or 12 and eventualy the first in service since last year and only official annoucement these days it is a possibility.
With 093 worse than expected they had to make this new variant and you have a gap of about 4/5 years between the two variants but new build on enough few years , seems...
Finaly annoucement enough soon coz thinking they wait minimum again a year... it is for show her new weapon " dangerous " with especialy LACM but show only a part of VLS and finaly not the weapons load... in fact on the fund propaganda matter...
With 093 worse than expected they had to make this new variant and you have a gap of about 4/5 years between the two variants but new build on enough few years , seems...
Finaly annoucement enough soon coz thinking they wait minimum again a year... it is for show her new weapon " dangerous " with especialy LACM but show only a part of VLS and finaly not the weapons load... in fact on the fund propaganda matter...
On the pic we have this impression but on Sat Views VLS do more half that the length of the sail which do ~ 14 m, VLS 12 m but only 10 m max can host launchers, 2 m less large, tapering, wide as the sail about 2.5 m.
It is clear we need again waiting for know the true but right now match about with first datas.
i don't see how you fit 12 missiles in that little hump if those missiles are suppose to fire off something the size of CJ-10. If 039A to 039B's length do not increase by 12 m, I don't see how you can allocate 12m for storing VLS.
agreed, we have to wait. The pictures in the article are all from the almost frontal perspective which significantly reduced the clarity of where the hump really end.
We don't know if they've stopped production at three, or if they've actually built more and we've only been able to see three 093Bs in a single satellite photo.
In any case, the fact that they were willing to build at least three in such rapid succession suggests to me the 093B offers some improvements in capability that the Navy is willing to induct a reasonable number for themselves.
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I think the "only 3" is thanks to Wikipedia. According to it 093 stop production after the first 2 due to not meeting expectation. But total of 5 were planned. The next 3 were the heavily modified 093G/093B. After that PLAN will change over to 095.
So I think thats where the limit of 3 093G/093B come from. Maybe there is truth to it. Even if the 093G/093B is as good as or better than a LA 688, it will still be behind 688i, project 971U/M, Trafalgar and no comparison to Seawolf, Virginia, Astute, Yasen. So priority going to 095 makes sense.
So I think thats where the limit of 3 093G/093B come from. Maybe there is truth to it. Even if the 093G/093B is as good as or better than a LA 688, it will still be behind 688i, project 971U/M, Trafalgar and no comparison to Seawolf, Virginia, Astute, Yasen. So priority going to 095 makes sense.