Can you post some images?
09III/09IV (093/094) Nuclear Submarine Thread
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So, here we have imagery for 28 September 2025.
At the western side from top to bottom:
094 in the dry dock on the blue barge
093A north side of pier (measured for confirmation)
093B south side of pier (measured for confirmation)
094
Over at the new side:
093B being positioned by tugs (measured)
Dry dock being filled
Sand coloured floating barge in the loading bay.
I'd say the 093B has being moved across from the western side - or at an outside chance has been out to sea and is being positioned to go into the dock.
Looking at the tug positions it looks like they're spinning it to point west.
At the western side from top to bottom:
094 in the dry dock on the blue barge
093A north side of pier (measured for confirmation)
093B south side of pier (measured for confirmation)
094
Over at the new side:
093B being positioned by tugs (measured)
Dry dock being filled
Sand coloured floating barge in the loading bay.
I'd say the 093B has being moved across from the western side - or at an outside chance has been out to sea and is being positioned to go into the dock.
Looking at the tug positions it looks like they're spinning it to point west.
And here's imagery for 16 October 2025
At the western side from top to bottom:
093A north side of pier (measured for confirmation)
093B south side of pier (measured for confirmation)
094
094 moved from dry dock
And at the eastern side:
093B in the dry dock on the sand coloured barge
So, is it a "new" one? No, I don't think so.
Is it the same one as before? Could well be, but it's been out of the dock for a short while - maybe out at sea for trials.
Still not an out of the sheds boat yet though.
At the western side from top to bottom:
093A north side of pier (measured for confirmation)
093B south side of pier (measured for confirmation)
094
094 moved from dry dock
And at the eastern side:
093B in the dry dock on the sand coloured barge
So, is it a "new" one? No, I don't think so.
Is it the same one as before? Could well be, but it's been out of the dock for a short while - maybe out at sea for trials.
Still not an out of the sheds boat yet though.
So you think they launched an 093B, took it to the West side, then put it (or a different one) back on the barge, having already put the barge back in its launching slot? That doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
Did you measure any of the hull sections laid out North of the dock and, if so, discover anything interesting?
I don't think it was a new boat that was launched. It has always been an older one. There has consistently been three 093s (one A and two B's) since the last launch in February. I don't think there's been a new one since then.
One of the three could've had work done on it in the dock and they then put it back it the water to test it. And then it has returned to the dock. Or they've put a different one in - but that doesn't appear to be the case from the non movement of the 093A and B on the west side from the two sat images available.
The blue barge has a 094 on it, and the last time we saw the blue barge it had a 093 in the east dock, so there's been a swap around of the barges at least. And to do that they needed to put the 093 in the water.
Not looked at the other sections yet. Literally rushed this through. I have a lot of paid work on at the moment which has to take priority.
One of the three could've had work done on it in the dock and they then put it back it the water to test it. And then it has returned to the dock. Or they've put a different one in - but that doesn't appear to be the case from the non movement of the 093A and B on the west side from the two sat images available.
The blue barge has a 094 on it, and the last time we saw the blue barge it had a 093 in the east dock, so there's been a swap around of the barges at least. And to do that they needed to put the 093 in the water.
Not looked at the other sections yet. Literally rushed this through. I have a lot of paid work on at the moment which has to take priority.
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Here's the AIS for the 28th September.
First image is at the time of the satellite image collection and we can see the three tugs.
Hu Gang 1 has come from outside the basin so may have had the 093B with it and met the other two. It could equally be coincidence that it has returned whilst they move the 093B.
Hu Gang 1 returns to the north side of the basin whilst the other two slow move to the western side, likely taking the 093B to a empty floating pier.
As there's the 094 from the western dry dock at that location in the October imagery I guess they've done the shuffle and moved the 093B back to the east dock and put the 094 in its place.
First image is at the time of the satellite image collection and we can see the three tugs.
Hu Gang 1 has come from outside the basin so may have had the 093B with it and met the other two. It could equally be coincidence that it has returned whilst they move the 093B.
Hu Gang 1 returns to the north side of the basin whilst the other two slow move to the western side, likely taking the 093B to a empty floating pier.
As there's the 094 from the western dry dock at that location in the October imagery I guess they've done the shuffle and moved the 093B back to the east dock and put the 094 in its place.
Here's Hu Gang 1's route for the period in question. It heads out of the basin at around 2320 UTC on 27th, into liaodong Bay before returning back at 0109 UTC. Points to it being a test of the 093B with the tug as support - which I'd posted about previously in this thread.
Before Hu Gang 1 departs the basin it loiters at the western side and the other two tugs drag something off the pier - possibly the 093B.
This is all guess work by the way, you can never be 100% certain with AIS etc.
This is all guess work by the way, you can never be 100% certain with AIS etc.
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I'd never measured them to be honest.
The one in the east basin is longer and wider (220m by 32m approx.). It's a different one that has the 094 on (180m by 26m approx.) in the September imagery. So you may be correct about the silt build up.
There is a hint of blue in the 16 October image with the 093B on it.
But then it looks totally sand/brown in the previous one
Just needs a wash Ignore what I said about the barges then in #4275 - I can't edit it any more to remove the line.