09III/09IV (093/094) Nuclear Submarine Thread

[SARB033]

I think the PLAN leaders did indeed know the sub would most likely be detected.

Thanks for your answer.

 

[SARB033]

If "the PLAN leaders did indeed know the sub would most likely be detected", then, did PLAN expect that JMSDF would start hot pursuit when the sub 093B entered Senkaku's contiguous zone?

 

[jobjed]

If "the PLAN leaders did indeed know the sub would most likely be detected", then, did PLAN expect that JMSDF would start hot pursuit when the sub 093B entered Senkaku's contiguous zone?

There was no hot pursuit.

 

[SARB033]

There was no hot pursuit.

haaaah?

 

[ougoah]

Thanks for your answer.

The "test your hardware" theory of yours will likely only be practiced on equipment at least a generation ahead of others and have lower risks for failure and lower consequences in case of failure. Type 093 is not an advanced nuclear sub. It's also not very quiet. Why on Earth will they test it on a very capable military in this sort of way? I hope you understand.

 

[jobjed]

haaaah?

I say again: there was NO hot pursuit. Nor a cold one. There was no pursuit in general.

 

[duncanidaho]

Type 093B entered Diaoyudao's contiguous zone on January 11th morning and left it on January 11th afternoon, that is for me just a couple of hours but never 24 hours and more.

you should read carefully. JMSDF's hot pursuit started when the sub 093B entered in Senkaku's contiguous zone, not between Miyako and Senkaku.

I read carefully, but you should better remember what you wrote.

The sub 093B was chased by JMSDF's destroyer and helicopter since the sub entered Senkaku's contiguous zone, presumably, for nearly 24 hours or more.

no, no. JMSDF's destroyer Onami started continuous hot pursuit when 093B was inside Senkaku's contiguous zone. After continuously chased for nearly 24 hours, the sub 093B surfaced, probably forced or unwillingly, not voluntarily. the sub 093B could not run away in East China Sea.

the sub 093B was continuously monitored its exact location at least for 5 days, possibly longer.
Hot pursuit was nearly 24 hours or more.

 

[SARB033]

The "test your hardware" theory of yours will likely only be practiced on equipment at least a generation ahead of others and have lower risks for failure and lower consequences in case of failure. Type 093 is not an advanced nuclear sub. It's also not very quiet. Why on Earth will they test it on a very capable military in this sort of way? I hope you understand.

perhaps, you are confusing 093 and 093B. it's already well-known 093 is very noisy. but, 093B also?

 

[SARB033]

I say again: there was NO hot pursuit. Nor a cold one. There was no pursuit in general.

perhaps, you are misunderstanding. I'm talking about international law term, the right of hot pursuit.

 

[ougoah]

perhaps, you are confusing 093 and 093B. it's already well-known 093 is very noisy. but, 093B also?

Point still stands. Unless you think 093B is somehow the stealthiest submarine in the world. Not even USN will want to take this sort of gamble "test your hardware" tactic with even something they consider the stealthiest submarine. I don't know if PLAN sub hunting is as developed and sophisticated as JMSDF and I would doubt it is given the available assets we know of. But the price to pay for losing this gamble is an entire line of your latest and greatest sub has compromised stealthiness. So why play when the prize to win is so insignificant.