075 LHD thread

snake65

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Iron Man mentioned the America class, so i assumed he was including LHAs in there as well.

Otherwise, you are correct, only Hyuga has VLS. Thats my memory for you, should have double checked.
America class Flight 2 will have well deck anyway.
 

Brumby

Major
Here you go sport. :cool:



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The article you pointed out refers to the lack AEW assets that are organic to the LHA/LHDs and that they may have to depend on external provision for such need. This is entirely different from your assertion that the VTOL assets cannot conduct land attacks without them. The fact is the AV-88 has APG-65 radar with operating modes including ground target track (fixed/moving); air-to-ground ranging; real beam ground mapping (long range). It also has the AN/AAQ-28 Litening Pod Gen 4 and Integrated NAVFLIR, Dual-Mode Tracker. All these are the tools for land attacks and the AV-88 has a history of conducting such operations.
 

Iron Man

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Iron Man mentioned the America class, so i assumed he was including LHAs in there as well.

Otherwise, you are correct, only Hyuga has VLS. Thats my memory for you, should have double checked.
Except that Hyuga is neither an LHA nor an LHD, as it has no role in amphibious assault. Hyuga is a "helicopter-carrying destroyer" ("DDH"), or more accurately an ASW helicopter carrier.

In any case based on the recent photos I'd say the chance there is a VLS on the 075 (at least on the port side) is just about zero at this point.
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
The article you pointed out refers to the lack AEW assets that are organic to the LHA/LHDs and that they may have to depend on external provision for such need. This is entirely different from your assertion that the VTOL assets cannot conduct land attacks without them. The fact is the AV-88 has APG-65 radar with operating modes including ground target track (fixed/moving); air-to-ground ranging; real beam ground mapping (long range). It also has the AN/AAQ-28 Litening Pod Gen 4 and Integrated NAVFLIR, Dual-Mode Tracker. All these are the tools for land attacks and the AV-88 has a history of conducting such operations.

No the main argument was today's VTOL assets can not operate land attacks without AEW assets. Meaning that LHA/LHD can NOT operate as full force projection like a CVG by themselves.

Just like the article stated before:
An amphibious assault ship and its embarked Marine Expeditionary Unit is a combat system designed and optimized to project and sustain land power from the sea. This combat system is not designed to control the seas or the skies from which it operates. This mission is left to other parts of the fleet design (including the aircraft carrier).
 
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