075 LHD thread

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Yazzinra

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Iron Man said:
That is why your argument only works when you dilute the denominator into utter meaninglessness. We are talking about a large amphibious warship, a ship like the 075. There aren't many in the world like it. Wasp, America, that's it, and neither of them have VLS. Even when you include the next tier of smaller LHDs like Mistral, Canberra, Juan Carlos, and Dokdo, none of these ships have VLS either. You have to go all the way down to 8,000t or way out of class to aircraft carriers and DDHs to even find VLS, at which point the role of such systems in these ships is so far removed from what a 075's VLS would conceivably load that it makes little to no sense to compare them.
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Hyuga and Izumo classes both have VLS. Just because some nations dont do a thing, doesnt mean others dont either. From what ive been seeing, the Chinese seem to be putting heavier defenses on thier capitol ships than most western nations seem to have.
 
snake65

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Yazzinra said:
Hyuga and Izumo classes both have VLS. Just because some nations dont do a thing, doesnt mean others dont either. From what ive been seeing, the Chinese seem to be putting heavier defenses on thier capitol ships than most western nations seem to have.
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Only Hyuga class has 16 cell VLS. And both classes are not LHD.
 
Equation

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Brumby said:
Since you are repeating such an assertion can you please substantiate it.
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Here you go sport. :cool:

An amphibious assault ship and its embarked Marine Expeditionary Unit is a combat system designed and optimized to project and sustain land power from the sea. This combat system is not designed to control the seas or the skies from which it operates. This mission is left to other parts of the fleet design (including the aircraft carrier). The U.S. Navy operates two types of amphibious assault ships, the Wasp-class LHD and the America-class LHA. As stated earlier, these ships look like aircraft carriers, largely because they have a flat deck and they carry airplanes. The advent of the F-35B will bring much more capable airplanes to its deck, but those airplanes will still be part of a system optimized for the projection of land power ashore. There are no AEW aircraft assigned to an LHD/LHA. All U.S. Navy AEW aircraft are catapult launched, rather than short or vertical take-off (like all aircraft on LHD/LHA which are not catapult equipped). The LHD/LHA must rely on the carrier based E-2C/D or even land based AEW.

The LHD/LHA does not have the ability to project its airpower ashore using organic electronic warfare assets (such as the EA-6B or the F/A-18G). If its aircraft are operating in an electronic warfare environment, it must rely on the carrier air wing for its jamming or on land-based assets. Again, the Navy operates only catapult launched jammers, not short or vertical take-off variants.
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Deino said:
The lower one seems to be the second one?

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I'm not sure if the second picture is showing the inside of the drydock; the satellite picture we had from August showed hull 2 in the drydock was in a stage of construction where much of the keel was already laid down in the drydock with some modules assembled atop it.

The second picture could be showing a part of hull 2 in the staging area that has yet to be lowered into the drydock.
 
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Yazzinra

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snake65 said:
Only Hyuga class has 16 cell VLS. And both classes are not LHD.
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Iron Man mentioned the America class, so i assumed he was including LHAs in there as well.

Otherwise, you are correct, only Hyuga has VLS. Thats my memory for you, should have double checked.
 
by78

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Higgle said:
Scaffolding taken off the funnel.

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That's an old image. ;)
 
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