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Re: PLAN air cushion ship undergoing testing
Yes, this new LCAC is actually the Yuyi class LCAC.
Construction to start in 2007, launch in 2008 and maiden sea trial in 2009.
And so that is why I say, the LCAC shown in their photo is not a new type as was suggested by wforum. And I don't know where the heck did they say that the chinese LCAC's technology came from Ukraine.
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Yes, this new LCAC is actually the Yuyi class LCAC.
Construction to start in 2007, launch in 2008 and maiden sea trial in 2009.
And so that is why I say, the LCAC shown in their photo is not a new type as was suggested by wforum. And I don't know where the heck did they say that the chinese LCAC's technology came from Ukraine.
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maozedong
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Re: PLAN air cushion ship undergoing testing
yes, you are right, we may look at 071 LPD thread in our forum, so many information in there.
http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/navy/071-lpd-landing-craft-2576.html
yes, you are right, we may look at 071 LPD thread in our forum, so many information in there.
http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/navy/071-lpd-landing-craft-2576.html
Re: PLAN air cushion ship undergoing testing
In another forum I visit they are calling this boat the Chinese LCAC..This is what I posted;
What do you gents think??
By the way I'm merging the threads...
In another forum I visit they are calling this boat the Chinese LCAC..This is what I posted;
That "LCAC" (sic)is very small. I have to wonder is this a prototype just to test the engines or is this the fore-runner of the "Real deal".
What do you gents think??
By the way I'm merging the threads...
Re: PLAN air cushion ship undergoing testing
In my opinion, you must first answer what do we think China's concept for amphibious operations will be. If they envision having to keep the large ships far off-shore, then it makes sense for them to design a very large LCAC to facilitate mass movements of troops. If not, it doesn't make sense to build a very large LCAC since it won't have to do much of the heavy lifting.
Anyone have any insights? Would be interesting to see what some of their writings say.
In my opinion, you must first answer what do we think China's concept for amphibious operations will be. If they envision having to keep the large ships far off-shore, then it makes sense for them to design a very large LCAC to facilitate mass movements of troops. If not, it doesn't make sense to build a very large LCAC since it won't have to do much of the heavy lifting.
Anyone have any insights? Would be interesting to see what some of their writings say.
re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft
Sometime I wonder, if it is worthwhile creating a massive LCAC that carried huge numbers of troops and vehicles at once. True, you could transport massive number of troops to land at a single point on shore at a time...
But if you have smaller LCAC that carried lesser troops and/or vehicles, but have more of them, you could land troops at different locations along the shores or at different points and was much more flexible as compare to 1 single ship...
The advantage might be that more LCAC can be carried in a single LPD, and could be launched at different locations at a time...
Something like, "Do not put all your eggs in one basket." because if that massive LCAC was hit or destroyed, there goes all your troops. However if the LCAC are smaller, faster and more agile, to hit it might be difficult, even if being destroy, there will be lesser troops involved and other LCAC can still reach the shore or their target location.
Sometime I wonder, if it is worthwhile creating a massive LCAC that carried huge numbers of troops and vehicles at once. True, you could transport massive number of troops to land at a single point on shore at a time...
But if you have smaller LCAC that carried lesser troops and/or vehicles, but have more of them, you could land troops at different locations along the shores or at different points and was much more flexible as compare to 1 single ship...
The advantage might be that more LCAC can be carried in a single LPD, and could be launched at different locations at a time...
Something like, "Do not put all your eggs in one basket." because if that massive LCAC was hit or destroyed, there goes all your troops. However if the LCAC are smaller, faster and more agile, to hit it might be difficult, even if being destroy, there will be lesser troops involved and other LCAC can still reach the shore or their target location.
re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft
I think some analysis was done on the size of this hovercraft when it first came out. And we thought at that time it was actually quite large. basically, large enough to carry at least one MBT. Now, some people on Chinese bbs say this can carry something of ZTZ-99 class. May or may not, but I think it should be able to carry at least a ZTZ-96 or several of their new IFVs.
I think some analysis was done on the size of this hovercraft when it first came out. And we thought at that time it was actually quite large. basically, large enough to carry at least one MBT. Now, some people on Chinese bbs say this can carry something of ZTZ-99 class. May or may not, but I think it should be able to carry at least a ZTZ-96 or several of their new IFVs.
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Pointblank
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re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft
The thing is with traditional landing craft, there are major limitations as to where an amphibious force can land. The sea bed has to be of a certain type and slope, the area should be fairly clear of underwater obstacles, etc. As such, it is fairly easy for a defender to pick out such locations and heavily defend them against a enemy that is limited as such. Once you are landing with hovercraft, it opens up a lot more areas to land (70% of the world's coastlines immediately open up in fact), which means more area for a defender to cover.
The thing is with traditional landing craft, there are major limitations as to where an amphibious force can land. The sea bed has to be of a certain type and slope, the area should be fairly clear of underwater obstacles, etc. As such, it is fairly easy for a defender to pick out such locations and heavily defend them against a enemy that is limited as such. Once you are landing with hovercraft, it opens up a lot more areas to land (70% of the world's coastlines immediately open up in fact), which means more area for a defender to cover.
In4ser
Junior Member
re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft
True, but I doubt we will see landings like the days of Operation Overlord anymore. More likely the LPD be targeted/taken out by ASMs or torpedos than individual LCACs would, besides I don't really think China or any modern military power will attempt an amphibious landing without aerial superiority and the neutralization of coastal defenses. You want something that can reinforce a position fast and create a beachhead for the main expeditionary force, and efficently and at some just sending a lot more troops isn't going to compensate for vehicles like tanks or IFVs, imo.
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