071 LPD thread

SinoSoldier

Colonel
re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

Hudong Shanghai-It Is Not My Liberty To Guess What It Is

29375260.jpg

Looks like a civilian ship, not Navy.
 

escobar

Brigadier
re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

Type 071 LPD in training

[video=youtube;Cf-Wor6jT8Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf-Wor6jT8Y[/video]
 

A.Man

Major
re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

Chinese naval fleet left for Nanhai, the West Pacific training on March 19. The South China Sea Fleet warships: amphibious 999 Jinggangshan, destroyer 170 Lanzhou, frigates 569 Yulin and 572 Hengshui with four helicopters, a hovercraft, and a company of Marines.

两栖船坞登陆舰999井冈山舰、导弹驱逐舰170兰州舰、导弹护卫舰569玉林舰和572衡水舰,并随舰搭载4架各型直升机、一艘气垫艇以及一个陆战连等兵力

2566cc20c5eebd44af1.jpg


25663e7c460eca28460.jpg
 

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

a single hovercraft? Type 071 LPD can load 4 LCAC and 4 helos, 2 x Z9 and 2 x Z8

in addition i would add 3 more helos from the 2 FFGs and 1 DDG, total helos capacity easily 7 we have only 4

PLAN never loads up its ships to full capacity, i think it should, for the experience and knowledge it would give them
 

Totoro

Major
VIP Professional
re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

Following the various chinese LCAC news and footage, it would appear that the whole program is still in proving stage and serial production of those hovercrafts hasn't really begun. But that in itself isn't that great of an issue as hovercrafts are not central to whole amphibious dock ship concept - many navies operate such ships but chose not to operate hovercrafts but to use other kinds of landing crafts.
 

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

i dont know, 1st unit was commissioned almost 6 years ago, they have been in service for a while now, its also been on anti-piracy missions but to me still they look like they are in emaculate condition almost like trophies

get them down and dirty, lets see a fully loaded Type 071 carrying out a high tempo excercise, marines running into rear ramp of a Z8 while rotors are on, on the rear deck, make that 2 Z8s at the same time, while marines load into LCAC simulltanously in a synchronized manner

lets see it take 4 helos at the same time, 2 on the deck with 2 rotors on whats the spacing between the blades, surely this is possible, lets see some rubber tyre markings on the deck, some exhaust marks on the helos

when Americans do things its for real even if its training, you know the type of operations i mean, these are warships lets treat them like one, in contrast they seem like beautiful ladies who are treated with way too much softness

these ships should never stop, must be pushed to thier operating envelope, to gauge the extent of their capability

i hope Liaoning is not treated the same way!
 

Lion

Senior Member
re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

i dont know, 1st unit was commissioned almost 6 years ago, they have been in service for a while now, its also been on anti-piracy missions but to me still they look like they are in emaculate condition almost like trophies

get them down and dirty, lets see a fully loaded Type 071 carrying out a high tempo excercise, marines running into rear ramp of a Z8 while rotors are on, on the rear deck, make that 2 Z8s at the same time, while marines load into LCAC simulltanously in a synchronized manner

lets see it take 4 helos at the same time, 2 on the deck with 2 rotors on whats the spacing between the blades, surely this is possible, lets see some rubber tyre markings on the deck, some exhaust marks on the helos

when Americans do things its for real even if its training, you know the type of operations i mean, these are warships lets treat them like one, in contrast they seem like beautiful ladies who are treated with way too much softness

these ships should never stop, must be pushed to thier operating envelope, to gauge the extent of their capability

i hope Liaoning is not treated the same way!

That's why US defence is suffering a budget cut in many department now. PLAN probably do not forsee having long range amphibious operation. They do have full gear dress amphibious exercise with their large LST as they do see regional combat is more realistic in near future.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
 
Last edited:

bd popeye

The Last Jedi
VIP Professional
re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

That's why US defence is suffering a budget cut in many department now. PLAN probably do not forsee having long range amphibious operation. They do have full gear dress amphibious exercise with their large LST as they do see regional combat is more realistic in near future.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Lion you are incorrect about the US DoD. the budgets problems are due to poor fiscal management by the US congress. Period. Not the US DoD. They can only spend the amount of money allotted to the US DoD by the US Congress.

Also..Present day USMC/USN amphibious tactics call for a flanking assault on beachheads.. not a frontal assault like Normandy.

Operating ships as they intended to be operated is the only way to be sure the crews are trained up when they are needed.

when Americans do things its for real even if its training, you know the type of operations i mean, these are warships lets treat them like one, in contrast they seem like beautiful ladies who are treated with way too much softness

these ships should never stop, must be pushed to thier operating envelope, to gauge the extent of their capability

Exactly. You have to train as pictured below.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!


ATLANTIC OCEAN (March 13, 2013) - Marines in an amphibious assault vehicle approach the well deck of the amphibious dock landing ship USS Carter Hall (LSD 50). Carter Hall is deployed as part of the Kearsarge Amphibious Ready Group with embarked Marines from the 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit (26th MEU) supporting maritime security operations and theater security cooperation efforts in the U.S. 5th and 6th Fleet areas of responsibility. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Chelsea Mandello/Released)

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!


ATLANTIC OCEAN (March 13, 2013) A landing craft air cushion (LCAC) enters the well deck of the amphibious dock landing ship USS Carter Hall (LSD 50). Carter Hall is deployed as part of the Kearsarge Amphibious Ready Group with embarked Marines from the 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit (26th MEU) supporting maritime security operations and theater security cooperation efforts in the U.S. 5th and 6th Fleet areas of responsibility. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Chelsea Mandello/Released)

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!


U.S. 5TH FLEET AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY (Jan. 30, 2013) A UH-1Y Venom Huey helicopter assigned to the Purple Foxes of Marine Medium Helicopter Squadron (HMM) 364 (Reinforced) lands aboard the amphibious transport dock ship USS Green Bay (LPD 20) during exercise Leading Edge 2013. Green Bay is part of the Peleliu Amphibious Ready Group, with the embarked 15th Marine Expeditionary Unit (15th MEU), deployed in support of maritime security operations and theater security cooperation efforts in the U.S. 5th Fleet area of responsibility. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 1st Class Elizabeth Merriam/Released)

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!


U.S. 5TH FLEET AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY (Feb. 1, 2013) A working party consisting of Sailors and Marines transfers supplies across the boat deck aboard the amphibious dock landing ship USS Rushmore (LSD 47) during a replenishment-at-sea. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Shawnte Bryan/Released)

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!


PACIFIC OCEAN (Feb. 7, 2013) U.S. Marines and Japan Self-Defense Force personnel disembark from Landing Craft Utility (LCU) 1648 in the well deck of the amphibious assault ship USS Boxer (LHD 4). Boxer is currently underway off the coast of California. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Christopher B. Janik/Released)




Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!


HAT YAO BEACH, Thailand (Feb. 10, 2013) A light armored vehicle exits Landing Craft Air Cushion (LCAC) 30 during an offload evolution in preparation for exercise Cobra Gold 2013. The Bonhomme Richard Amphibious Ready Group, currently on deployment in the U.S. 7th Fleet area of responsibility, will take part in amphibious integration training, certification exercise and participate in the annual multinational combined joint training exercise Cobra Gold. (U. S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Amanda S. Kitchner/Released)

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!


ATLANTIC OCEAN (Jan. 28, 2013) A Marine assigned to the 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit (26th MEU) cleans his weapon during a raid drill aboard the amphibious assault ship USS Kearsarge (LHD 3). (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist Seaman Derek Paumen/Released)




Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!


EAST CHINA SEA (Feb. 2, 2013) -Landing Craft Air Cushion (LCAC) 47 assigned to Naval Beach Unit (NBU) 7, approaches the well deck of the forward-deployed amphibious assault ship USS Bonhomme Richard (LHD 6). The Bonhomme Richard Amphibious Ready Group, currently on deployment in the U.S. 7th Fleet area of operations, will take part in amphibious integration training, certification exercise, and participate in the annual multi-national combined joint exercise Cobra Gold. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Jerome D. Johnson/Released)




Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!


ATLANTIC OCEAN (Jan. 31, 2013) Aviation Boatswain's Mate (Handling) 2nd Class Derrick Battle signals an MV-22 Osprey assigned to the Marine Medium Tiltrotor Squadron (VMM) 266 for lift off during flight operations on the flight deck of the amphibious transport dock ship USS San Antonio (LPD 17). San Antonio is participating in Composite Training Unit Exercise (COMPTUEX) off the Coast of the United States in preparation for a scheduled deployment this spring. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Lacordrick Wilson/Released)

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!


PACIFIC OCEAN (Dec. 6, 2012) The amphibious transport dock ship USS San Diego (LPD 22) conducts rapid ballast and floods the well deck with 10 feet of water. The trials are the final in-depth examination of all newly constructed ships to ensure the ship meets all Navy standards and requirements. San Diego was declared satisfactory by the Board of Inspection and Survey (INSURV) and will begin training for deployment in 2014. (U.S. Navy photo by Chief Mass Communication Specialist Holly Boynton/Released)

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!


U.S. 5TH FLEET AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY (Dec. 16, 2012) Amphibious assault vehicles approach the amphibious transport dock ship USS Green Bay (LPD 20). (U.S. Navy Photo by Mass Communication Specialist 1st Class Elizabeth Merriam/Released)

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!


U.S. 5TH FLEET AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY (Dec. 16, 2012) Seaman Kevin Campbell directs an amphibious assault vehicle in the well deck aboard the amphibious transport dock ship USS Green Bay (LPD 20).(U.S. Navy Photo by Mass Communication Specialist 1st Class Elizabeth Merriam/Released)

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!


U.S. 5TH FLEET AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY (Dec. 16, 2012) Amphibious assault vehicles transit the well deck of the amphibious transport dock ship USS Green Bay (LPD 20). (U.S. Navy Photo by Mass Communication Specialist 1st Class Elizabeth Merriam/Released)
 

franco-russe

Senior Member
re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

a single hovercraft? Type 071 LPD can load 4 LCAC and 4 helos, 2 x Z9 and 2 x Z8

They do not have much choice, as they only have one, the familiar 3320.

3321 is still in the trials stage, and the third fitting out at Jiangnan.

But as Totoro points out, they are not central to the employment of Type 071. They float off the Marines' amphibious AFVs, which will at least provide a decent assault force.

LCACs seem to be a singularly ineffecient way to put armoured equipment ashore. Even if Type 071 could carry four, which remains to be demonstrated, of course, that would only produce four AFVs. Using a 20,000-ton ship to land four tanks, what difference will that make anywhere?
 
Top