056 class FFL/corvette

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plawolf

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I agree it's a cost issue, it may also be a threat perception issue. The current 056 configuration is fine for peacetime, but during hostilities I don't see why they wouldn't up the ammo count so the 056 can hold the line up to a higher threshold before needing reinforcements or retreat.

FL3000s are a point defence missile. They are only useful for defending against missiles coming at the ship they are mounted on.

The 056 would have to pretty much be in the path of an incoming missile heading for a bigger ship for its FL3000s to help put with fleet defence.

During wartime, 056s are not meant to operate alone. Operating alone and without fleet support would be a bad idea for any warship other than a sub.

Being in a fleet doesn’t change the fact that the FL3000s are too short legged to effectively cover any other ship in the fleet.

You also need to consider that the 056 will pretty much be the last ships an enemy would target ina fleet engagement, and will only pick up incoming missiles if, it just happened to get on the way of the missile gunning for a bigger target, or ending up as an independent re-acquire from an incoming missiles that was successfully decoyed by its intended target.

During a fleet engagement, the 056 will act much like the old traditional WWII destroyers and subsequent sub chaser classes.

Their main job will be ASW by presenting a small and unworthy target for enemy sub commanders; while packing the sensors and weapons to kill any sub foolish enough to underestimate them; and acting as FOBs for friendly ASW helicopters from carriers/LHDs and other major surface combatants to potentially significantly extend the range and operational persistence of said ASW helicopters.

The PLAN will have 055s, 052C/D and 054As etc for fleet air defence.

Adding more rounds to the 056’s FL3000 launcher adds practically nothing to benefit the ‘fleet’; and if in a fleet engagement, an 056 needed more than the 8 short range missile for self defence, something far more significant has gone wrong than the risk of running out of FL3000s.
 
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Yu-8 is the designator for the rocket stage with Yu-11 being the LWT. The complete ASROC system is designated CY-5

Yu-8 range approx. 30km at 650kts
Yu-11 endurance 6 minutes at 26kts - sonar detection range 1.5 to 2.5km. Approx. operating depth down to 600m. 45kg HE warhead
it adds to what's available in English wiki
  • for the rocket-torpedo ("The exact type of the light weight torpedo (LWT) carried by Yu-8 has not been officially released by the Chinese governmental sources (as of 2016), ..."
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Tam

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Sometimes I wonder how much the 8 cell HHQ-10 launcher would cost over the 18 and 24 cell versions. The other thing I want to know would be the weight.
 

TopolMSS27

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More likely the missile is designated as CY-5 (or some other CY- or CJ- designator), not Yu-8. If designated in keeping with previous PLAN convention then "Yu" ("fish") refers to torpedoes, while "CY" and "CJ" have in the past referred to the rockets/missiles that carry the torpedo payloads.

You've maybe misinterpreted what I've written, or I wrote it badly :)

Yes, the weapon as a complete unit is designated the CY-5 (including launcher etc.), but it is split up into components with the rocket/missile element being the Yu-8. The Yu-11 LWT is another component.
 

Tam

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I am interested to know what are the two ships next to the SURTASS catamaran. Also on closer look, there is another Type 054A on the left side of the picture. Then further left on that ship, there is a mast of some sorts of another frigate but could be an export or something. There is a new ship class right next to the Type 056 --- I am not sure what it is --- but if connected to another photo that's already posted, it can be a new class of coast guard cutter.
 

asif iqbal

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Check how busy this yard is !

Look at those coast guard vessels

And also those Ocean tugs at 6,000 tons
 
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