056 class FFL/corvette
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joshuatree
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Increasing that footprint with an additional deck space would probably mean redoing the exhaust stack so I think this is where costs will start to rise. The 056 is leaps and bounds ahead of its predecessor, 037. With the advent of better and better drones, perhaps that can further augment the 056 but I think they chose a good balance for this series.
Even if they didn't increase the height of the stacks the cost would increase from the hangar alone. But I was referring to the "crew comfort" argument, not the "cost" argument. "Cost" and "intended role" are reasonable arguments, while crew comfort is a non-issue IMO.
I think the comfort bit is rather weak and was probably just made up... people don't go to war for comfort and surely any sane navy will not sacrifice additional capability solely for comfort's sake.
Hendrik_2000
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Now in naval engineering space is premium. You got engine room, weapon room, command and control space, provision room, ton of piping and duct work. Remember this ship role is to patrol the Chinese exclusive zone for months or two .With 70 people onboard it become very crowded fast
Crew fatigue will affect moral and performance. So having a good sleep is important for crew moral So I don't think crew comfort is make up
Even people go to war need good night sleep! Unlike on the ground where you can lay wherever you want on the ship you have sea!
plawolf
Lieutenant General
It’s not just cost and space, but a probably bigger factor is top weight.
As a general rule, the lighter the displacement, the lower down you want a ship’s weight to be. Especially if you want that ship to operate in rough seas.
There are a lot of things they could have ‘easily’ done differently with the 056’s weapons load, like quad AShM launchers and/or a bigger FL2000 launcher etc, and I think a key consideration on top of costs is top weight.
Although there have been a lot of talk about class designation being political, I still think that the 056 being classes as a light frigate instead of corvette by the PLAN is telling about its intended role and deployment distance.
I have always believed that the PLAN has grander plans for their 056s rather than just second tier patrol ships.
The original vanilla model may well serve just such a mission, but the ASW ‘A’ model seems like it was tailor made to improve the ASW capabilities of a PLAN task group. And when operating as part of a task group centred around a carrier or LHD, the lack of a hanger on the 056 becomes a non-issue, since the flat tops can house the ASW helicopters, who will just use the 056s as FOBs for rapid refuelling and re-arming.
The vanilla version could probably have lowered the helipad by a deck, and raised the rear superstructure a little to get enough clearance for a hanger. And an export model may indeed do just that but the PLAN obviously don’t think a helicopter hanger is a high priority.
As a general rule, the lighter the displacement, the lower down you want a ship’s weight to be. Especially if you want that ship to operate in rough seas.
There are a lot of things they could have ‘easily’ done differently with the 056’s weapons load, like quad AShM launchers and/or a bigger FL2000 launcher etc, and I think a key consideration on top of costs is top weight.
Although there have been a lot of talk about class designation being political, I still think that the 056 being classes as a light frigate instead of corvette by the PLAN is telling about its intended role and deployment distance.
I have always believed that the PLAN has grander plans for their 056s rather than just second tier patrol ships.
The original vanilla model may well serve just such a mission, but the ASW ‘A’ model seems like it was tailor made to improve the ASW capabilities of a PLAN task group. And when operating as part of a task group centred around a carrier or LHD, the lack of a hanger on the 056 becomes a non-issue, since the flat tops can house the ASW helicopters, who will just use the 056s as FOBs for rapid refuelling and re-arming.
The vanilla version could probably have lowered the helipad by a deck, and raised the rear superstructure a little to get enough clearance for a hanger. And an export model may indeed do just that but the PLAN obviously don’t think a helicopter hanger is a high priority.
asif iqbal
Lieutenant General
So Bangladesh got 2+2
These corvettes will be ideal for chasing submarines in littoral waters
Scores of them
These corvettes will be ideal for chasing submarines in littoral waters
Scores of them
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