056 class FFL/corvette

hmmwv said:

CCG is a coastal water law enforcement agency, it has virtually no authority beyond the 12 nm territorial water. The actual government body that patrols Chinese EEZ are FLEC and CMS, not even MSA, which is tasked to maintain navigation safety and has no law enforcement authority. Patrolling EEZ has always been a civilian job, but when PLAN support is needed now it's those frigates' role, in the future it'll be 056s'.

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Quoting Jamestown Foundation, "Unlike the United States and Japan, China lacks a single unified coast guard with a broad maritime enforcement mandate." IMO this is an issue that can be addressed by consolidating the 4 different maritime agencies (excluding GAC/customs) into an unified Coast Guard branch. But would likely encounter strong opposition from entrenched administrators. Just my $0.02.

You are absolutely right it would be ideal, and that's the sentiment of many Chinese too. But one agency means one centralized bureaucracy, what are you going to do with the other three? Right now they all belong to different ministries, the opposition will be tremendous.

Quoting Jamestown Foundation, "Unlike the United States and Japan, China lacks a single unified coast guard with a broad maritime enforcement mandate." IMO this is an issue that can be addressed by consolidating the 4 different maritime agencies (excluding GAC/customs) into an unified Coast Guard branch. But would likely encounter strong opposition from entrenched administrators.

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I agree, it's organization behavior 101. Bureaucracies, public and private, exist first to survive. When their mission is over, they reinvent themselves, or find a new mission. And they fight like hell against consolidation.

New pics I hope...

Thanks Navyreco for the pics.

Technically most of those pics are of 054As... but still good pictures anyway.

That shipyard alone speaks volumes about the capacity of the modern PLAN. I wonder if we'll ever see shipyards pumping out destroyers this fast.

But we do already: At Jiangnan we see three 052C's in the water and two on the stocks...

Oh yes, that's true, but 052C's take a good while longer to build. But if they can keep up that kind of pace, of having four or five DDGs at the shipyard continuously it would be good too.

Bltizo said:

Oh yes, that's true, but 052C's take a good while longer to build. But if they can keep up that kind of pace, of having four or five DDGs at the shipyard continuously it would be good too.

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Longer to build, longer to fit out, and longer to commission.

Just the same, having all of those Type 52Cs coming out at once is very impressive...imagine if there were two shipyards working on them!

The PLAN is about to have more modern, area-wide anti-air defence destroyers than the UK or France, or Italy. The UK has six Type 45 Darings...and that's all they intend. The French have what, four Horizon class and Italy has the same?

Japan has six AEGIS DDGs.

Anyhow, when they get beyond six, up to eight, they will have the most modern area-wide air defense destoyers of any nation other than the US.

Of course, they have a long way to go to catch the US who has 22 AEGIS cruisers and over 60 AEGIS Burke DDGs.

navyreco said:

New pics I hope...

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That is also a nice pic of what seems to be the Type 056 OPV coming along beside the next 054A