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ladioussupp

ladioussupp

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tphuang said:
i'm not sure what you are saying. But we all know that these ships will be commissioned, but we often jump the gun in concluding on when the ship is already that way. For example, 151 has looked to be ready to commission for a long time now, but PLAN has deemed not so.
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A ship is built by manufacturer. Then she is delivered and accepted by Navy. At last, the ship is commissioned.

My questions are:
1. US Navy calls a ship not commissioned PCU Shipname. Is PCU Shipname always delivered and accepted by US Navy? For someone who assigned to a ship in building, could I say he/she is assigned to the unit, PCU Shipname?

2. Does PLAN have similar concept in official documents?

"A pre-commissioned unit is a naval unit (typically a ship or vessel) whose crew has been assembled prior to commissioning. Because the ship has not yet been commissioned, for the purposes of reference and legality, the ship is referred to as PCU Shipname rather than USS Shipname as the ship cannot yet carry the flag of its government."
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franco-russe

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asif iqbal said:
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Tier 1, And SSF there is room for 172 and 173 (Type 052D) to join 170 and 171 (Type 052C)

This leaves 167,168 and 169 which means they need to still add one more DDG to build full two flotillas of 4 DDG each

ESF is easy 136-139 ( Sovs) and 150-153 (Type 052C)

NSF is easy too, 112, 113, 115 and 116 and then comes 117-120 (Type 052D)

This means there's 11 "second rate" DDG and 13 "first rate" DDG

Out of the 13 first rate DDG there's 6 x Type 052C which means there needs to be 7 x Type 052D, agreed?

If they do add a single Type 052D to complete 167-169 at SSF it would have to be 166? Or will they number it 174?

I bet they wish they built two Type 051B for sake of numbers

Out of the 7 Type 052D there's already been 3 launched which means there's just 4 left, would it not just be easier for JN to launch all 4 and switch to Type 055, but I just can't believe the Type 052D will stop with 7 units, maybe a 3rd DDG is on the agenda integrated with two Type 055? Because I always thought there is going to be 8 x Type 052D or more

So each fleet has three DDG flotillas
One with 2 x Type 052D and 2 x Type 055
Second with 4 Type 052C/D
Third with 4 older Type 052, 052A, 051B, 051C and Sovs
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I am ”100 pct” sure there will be eight Type 052D, with the four for SSF’s 2 Destroyer Flotilla being 172 CHANGSHA, 173 KUNMING, 174 GUIYANG, and 175 CHENGDU (names not certain yet, of course).

I do not think that PLAN distinguished between 1st and 2nd class destroyer flotillas. For instance, 9 Flotilla got 052B/C 168-171, but 053H3 564-567, while 2 Flotilla kept three 051 162, 165-166 plus the odd man out, 167.

That said, 10 Destroyer Flotilla Lushun was evidently very much second class, when it was formed with 051 and 053H/H1/H3. That will change dramatically when 052D 117-120 arrive.

Att. A. Man: PLAN is officially not superstitious. SSF has for instance a HUJIU class salvage tug 南拖174.
 
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Franklin

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asif iqbal said:
That's four commissions in 30 days!
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And in the next 30 days we will most likely see another Type 056 commissioned and a Type 052C (151 Zhengzhou). This is what i expected to happen early in the year when i saw the launch dates of the Type 052C's, Type 054A's and the Type 056's. That during the summer we will see a new ship being commissioned every two or three weeks.

But is this drive to modernise the navy not come at the expense of the air force and ground forces ?
 
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Franklin said:
And in the next 30 days we will most likely see another Type 056 commissioned and a Type 052C (151 Zhengzhou). This is what i expected to happen early in the year when i saw the launch dates of the Type 052C's, Type 054A's and the Type 056's. That during the summer we will see a new ship being commissioned every two or three weeks.

But is this drive to modernise the navy not come at the expense of the air force and ground forces ?
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I think Air force and Army are already quite decently modernise and comparable to many major airforce. It is not surprise, its time to work on the navy.
 
kwaigonegin

kwaigonegin

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Lion said:
I think Air force and Army are already quite decently modernise and comparable to many major airforce. It is not surprise, its time to work on the navy.
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Well China was basically stuck in the 1950's for a good quarter century and didn't progress like the rest of the developed world did until the late 1970's.

Basically they started out as 1950 in the year 1980 relatively speaking if that make any sense.

It's a good thing they have the manpower, drive and of course $$$ to catch up and you can clearly see their progress made in the last 10 or 20 years not just in military builds but in almost all areas of industry.
 
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