055 DDG Large Destroyer Thread

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KampfAlwin

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sancheng said:
Has anybody seen this? Just wondering how people would react.
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Rubbish on some parts. Dude mentioned it is decades behind NATO ships. I'm also not sure how he came to assume 055 is a copy paste of NATO and Soviet tech???? He also mentioned it has PESA tech which is slightly behind SPY-1 and not AESA comparable to SPY-6 lmao. He then later clarified in the comments that the more advanced AESA radar is just Chinese propaganda.
 
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5unrise

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sancheng said:
Has anybody seen this? Just wondering how people would react.
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I provided a fairly detailed response to him in the comments section, until he deleted it.

This is a summary of what I said:

1. The Type 346B Dragon Eye is not remotely comparable to the AN/SPY-1. One is a third generation Chinese AESA, while the other is a PESA. The resolution and detection range are an order of magnitude different because of how the array functions.
2. The Type 1130 CIWS is evolved from the domestic Type 730, and is not a copy of a Russian system and bears no resemblence to the Kashtan (a gun-and-missile system).
3. Chinese state media indicated that the Type 055 destroyer will be an area air defence command and control warship, rather than having anti-ship as its primary mission, as Sub Brief claimed.
4. The Type 055 is not remotely comparable to the Ticonderoga in terms of capabilities - the latter is a 1980s design with much less advanced radars and electronic warfare suite.

I posted these under the user name Eurasia Naval Insight. He reacted by banning me from his channel and deleting my comment.

He is insinuating that any criticism of the lack of research, or just plainly wrong information, evident in his video is just Chinese state propaganda. We are not real free agents who simply disagree with his video, but basically paid propagandists.

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ansy1968

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KampfAlwin said:
Rubbish on some parts. Dude mentioned it is decades behind NATO ships. I'm also not sure how he came to assume 055 is a copy paste of NATO and Soviet tech???? He also mentioned it has PESA tech which is slightly behind SPY-1 and not AESA comparable to SPY-6 lmao. He then later clarified in the comments that the more advanced AESA radar is just Chinese propaganda.
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@KampfAlwin yup PEZA is better than AESA, cause we used it...lol You know what he should stick to submarine and an advise do some research, he is making a fool of himself. His knowledge of Chinese equipment is at kinder garden level at best.
 
Maikeru

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5unrise said:
I provided a fairly detailed response to him in the comments section, until he deleted it.

This is a summary of what I said:

1. The Type 346B Dragon Eye is not remotely comparable to the AN/SPY-1. One is a third generation Chinese AESA, while the other is a PESA. The resolution and detection range are an order of magnitude different because of how the array functions.
2. The Type 1130 CIWS is evolved from the domestic Type 730, and is not a copy of a Russian system and bears no resemblence to the Kashtan (a gun-and-missile system).
3. Chinese state media indicated that the Type 055 destroyer will be an area air defence command and control warship, rather than having anti-ship as its primary mission, as Sub Brief claimed.
4. The Type 055 is comparable to the Ticonderoga in terms of capabilities - the latter is a 1980s design with much less advanced radars and electronic warfare suite.

He reacted by banning me from his channel and deleting my comment.

He is insinuating that any criticism of the lack of research, or just plainly wrong information, evident in his video is just Chinese state propaganda. We are not real free agents who simply disagree with his video, but basically paid propagandists.

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I trust Eurasia Naval Insights much more than this guy, and HI Sutton/Covert Shores is much better on subs. I also corrected Sub-brief on something once.
 
optionsss

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5unrise said:
I provided a fairly detailed response to him in the comments section, until he deleted it.

This is a summary of what I said:

1. The Type 346B Dragon Eye is not remotely comparable to the AN/SPY-1. One is a third generation Chinese AESA, while the other is a PESA. The resolution and detection range are an order of magnitude different because of how the array functions.
2. The Type 1130 CIWS is evolved from the domestic Type 730, and is not a copy of a Russian system and bears no resemblence to the Kashtan (a gun-and-missile system).
3. Chinese state media indicated that the Type 055 destroyer will be an area air defence command and control warship, rather than having anti-ship as its primary mission, as Sub Brief claimed.
4. The Type 055 is not remotely comparable to the Ticonderoga in terms of capabilities - the latter is a 1980s design with much less advanced radars and electronic warfare suite.

I posted these under the user name Eurasia Naval Insight. He reacted by banning me from his channel and deleting my comment.

He is insinuating that any criticism of the lack of research, or just plainly wrong information, evident in his video is just Chinese state propaganda. We are not real free agents who simply disagree with his video, but basically paid propagandists.

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Your channel is under appreciated on Youtube, keep up the good work!
 
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