055 DDG Large Destroyer Thread

[iantsai]

Correction: Type 055 #8 is just READY AND WILL BE LAUNCHED soon, but not launched yet right now.

 

[Blitzo]

A bit bigger

 

[Arienai]

YJ-18 is the normal bread and butter anti-ship and land attack cruise missile for type 055, it has 540km range and carries a 300kg warhead. It's subsonic for most of the flight, accelerating to mach 2-3 on final sprint to the target. By all account it is a very formidable anti ship weapon.

The Chinese VLS standard (GJB 5860-2006) calls for a cell of 0.85m x 0.85m, with three different depth available much like Mark 41. Type 055 has the deepest implementation at 9m, the next deepest is I think 7m and the smallest one is 3.3m is. YJ-18 can also fit into Type 052D's VLS, which is probably 7m.

We don't actually know what range CM-401 has, guesses are anywhere from 300km to 1000km. However in its flight it's going to average mach 4 and on final approach it's mach 6. So it both reaches it's target quicker (despite greater range) as well as harder to intercept due to it's much higher final attack speed. Also look at the current CM-401, it's a very stubby missile and I would guess it would actually fit into a 7m deep VLS cell. A stretched CM-401 that takes advantage of the full 9m cell of Type 055 would be a very high performing missile due to its size. A ship based missile of this size is not currently possible on anything other than a Type 055 because even the Mark 57 of a Zumwalt does not come close the the big VLS cells of the Type 055. Only way to have a bigger missile on a ship at the moment would be to put it into a SSBN.

Actually... 32 of the 112 VLS on the 055 is the 9m version and the rest is 7m... And 16 of the 64 on 052D is 9m.

 

[Tetrach]

Actually... 32 of the 112 VLS on the 055 is the 9m version and the rest is 7m... And 16 of the 64 on 052D is 9m.

And how do you know that ?

 

[Arienai]

And how do you know that ?

...Many big shrimps have said that, it's basically common sense now in Chinese forums. I can't quite remember who said it cause I've read it too many times...

Half of the 32 in the front of 052D and half of the 64 in the front of 055 is 9m

 

[Temstar]

...Many big shrimps have said that, it's basically common sense now in Chinese forums. I can't quite remember who said it cause I've read it too many times...

Half of the 32 in the front of 052D and half of the 64 in the front of 055 is 9m

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Fair enough. You're going to have to leave port with a mix of HHQ, HQ, YJ, Yu-8 and stuff like that, they probably don't all need to be 9m.

I'm curious on the VLS launched AShBM direction though, given the recent success with the land based AShBM.

 

[by78]

A nice high-resolution magazine scan.

 

[by78]

Dry dock flooded. Dalian is launching a 055 and a 052D simultaneously.

 

[asif iqbal]

they sure are

so thats 8 x Type 055 in little over 3 years

1 x 2017
3 x 2018
2 x 2019
2 x 2020

exactly 4 a piece, 4 x JNCX + 4 x DL

thats was 8 units in 38 months

or 2.5 units per year

 

[Tam]

Dry dock flooded. Dalian is launching a 055 and a 052D simultaneously.

Ships on the lowest side of the picture are those ready for delivery, and usually the PLAN takes its time for that, as they have to train crews and all that.

You can see a 052D, certainly an extended model, and a 055 ready for delivery. This might be the first Dalian 055 to reach service.