055 DDG Large Destroyer Thread

[Jura The idiot]

This is apparently official. It's some kind of brochure for the PLAN's 70th anniversary celebration.

Length: 180m
Beam: 23m
Standard Displacement: 11,000 tons
Pennant Number: 101
Name: Nanchang

@Bltizo, your speculation based on old satellite photos was correct: the beam of 055 is indeed greater than 21 meters, by quite a bit in fact.

Jul 15, 2017

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anyway I looked at the numbers from Today at 2:10 AM


and the comment made Today at 3:00 AM


the difference would be the length-to-beam ratio, when rounded to integers, "approaching" 8:1 or 9:1

just saying

180/23 is 7.83 (rounded)

 

[by78]

Five more images of decent resolution from the naval review...

 

[antiterror13]

now I can compare the size of the radars to the real humans ... they are really huge radar panels

 

[bbq]

 

[by78]

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[Tam]

By icloo at the PDF. First images of the 055 bow deck from the 055 itself. A good view of the U-VLS farm at the front and compared to the 052D's, which looks anemic at this point.

 

[Blitzo]

yankeesama:

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And the specific passage talking about YJ-XX:
席亚洲火车长在他的公众号“亚洲火车总站”中曾无数次提到过鹰击-XX型高超音速反舰导弹（施佬在他的公众号“胡诌施佬”中也有过多次暗示），该型导弹的突防指标要求非常明确：突破美军最新一代“标准”系列导弹——SM-3 Block IIA和SM-6 Block IA的防御。目前该型反舰导弹已经进行了陆上遥测弹发射测试，即将成为055型对海打击的“撒手锏”。

Basically he talks about YJ-XX being tested on land and how it is a hypersonic weapon meant to be launched from 055 and designed to be capable of defeating SAMs like SM-3 Blk IIA and SM-6 Blk IA.


We've heard rumblings of YJ-XX in the past. I'm convinced it's most likely an HGV/AShBM type weapon, which would make sense for why yankee mentions SM-3 rather than merely SM-6. Of course, we've seen this slide in the presentation a few years ago which directly refers to a ship launched hypersonic/AShBM type weapon.

 

[asif iqbal]

I think it’s more appropriate here

You are right, it could have made a great picture.
But, seriously, there is no operational interest in having the same helicopter on a type 055 and a type 901, unless you imagine that the only purpose of a helicopter is to provide logistical support.... And in that case, why a Z8 (C or not, I don't care…)

Yes although I agree my point was that Type 055 needs twin medium sized helicopters and even rotary UAV

It’s a billion dollar warship and small investment in helicopters will ensure the warship survives

China should have had a certified new generation helicopters for these warships, ultra-long range ultra-long endurance

Not only for this warship but all the other ones that are coming online, the Z9C is basically a toy utterly useless

Ones that can sweep the ocean with powerful sensors and radars

I don’t know why China saves money on silly things like this while building 10 of these

Bit like taking off CIWS to save money while building a warship, and we know that’s been done

PLAAF builds aircrafts and lacks engines, PLAN builds warships and lacks rotary wing

Two very different problems both with a common theme

And trust me gaps in wartime cost

 

[james smith esq]

By icloo at the PDF. First images of the 055 bow deck from the 055 itself. A good view of the U-VLS farm at the front and compared to the 052D's, which looks anemic at this point.

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This image comparison provides a succinct graphic argument for why the 055 and NOT the 052 will be the PLAN's priority in DDG development and procurement going forth.

 

[gelgoog]

This image comparison provides a succinct graphic argument for why the 055 and NOT the 052 will be the PLAN's priority in DDG development and procurement going forth.

It depends on their doctrine. There will be cost/effectiveness issues as well.
The Type 055 has twice the engines. I would not be surprised if the construction cost was similarly higher as well.

Still, considering how quickly they can build these ships I would tend to agree that the amount of Type 055 ships to be constructed will likely be on the higher side of things.