055 DDG Large Destroyer Thread

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manqiangrexue

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They should hire you for PR.

Q: Why Chinese VLS tubes are so big compared to the applications all around the world?
A: It's a capacity for further growth!
Absolutely true. Bigger cells leave room for bigger missiles or more smaller missiles. If they design a new missile made to finish the fight before the enemy's even in range to start, it will need big range and big blast and you're gonna be glad you have a big cell to hold that missile.

Here's my JMSDF PR application:

Q: Why are recent Japanese destroyers so small?
A: So they can get more easily packed into the dock!

Now that's talent!
 

Janiz

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That's not a PR statement. Militaries always plan ahead with their deployment of new technology
What technology? Space ships? Pew-pew laser weapons?

I think that you might know more than we do in this subject. You're encouraged to explain your statement by the 'likes' you received and I think those guys are more than eager to learn something from your answer as well.
 

latenlazy

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What technology? Space ships? Pew-pew laser weapons?

I think that you might know more than we do in this subject. You're encouraged to explain your statement by the 'likes' you received and I think those guys are more than eager to learn something from your answer as well.
The Zumwalt included much greater electric generation capacity than it needed in part to futureproof for DEWs and Railguns. At some point China's missile technologies will reach parity with the west. When that happens the larger VLS will help field more capable missiles than their potential adversaries. I don't think this is hard to wrap your head around.
 

plawolf

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I would not be surprised if we see a future VLS launched hypersonic antiship glider for the PLAN.
Don't know why you guys emphasizing on 3 units per year...

We all know Chinese have all (resources/capacity/capability/manpower/shipyards/finance/technology) enough to churn out 7 - 10 in a year, maybe more & it applies to CGs/DDGs/FFGs/OPVs/FACs/SSKs/LPDs except SSBNs/SSNs/LHDs & carriers.

Therefore, its all depends on them i.e.
  • How many they want in a year.
  • What they want.
  • When they want.
  • From where they want.

Economics also play a part.

Civilian ship orders have pretty much collapsed in the wake of the 2008 financial crash and has still not recovered.

It’s not coincidence that the PLAN’s current unprecedented fleet expansion started only a few years after that, just as Chinese yards were finishing their existing orderbooks but have little new work coming in.

The PLAN fleet expansions is as much about government support of key Chinese shipyards in these difficult times as it is about just what the PLAN might need.

As such, the broader world economic outlook will also have a big impact on just how many destroyers the PLAN ends up having.

If civilian orders picks up again in a big way, I fully expect PLAN fleet expansion to slow down. However, if the world economy continues to be sluggish, then Beijing will keep allocating funds for the PLAN to buy new warships to help keep all the highly skilled shipyard workers employed until civilian orders pick up again.

So depending on how long it will take for the civilian shipping industry to recover, the PLAN may well end up with a 100+ DDG fleet.

Despite all the growth in recent years, China’s defence budget has barely increased much as a percentage of GDP, so China has massive leeway for further military expansion without putting undue strain on its
economy.

China could quite easily keep the current fleet expansion rate for at least another decade at least, and they will do just that if it is what it will take to safeguard its shipbuilding industry, because Beijing sees shipbuilding as a critical national security industry.
 

manqiangrexue

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What technology? Space ships? Pew-pew laser weapons?

I think that you might know more than we do in this subject. You're encouraged to explain your statement by the 'likes' you received and I think those guys are more than eager to learn something from your answer as well.
Yeah, man, space ships that go to Mars and laser weapons that blast drones and vehicles. There's both now; did ya know that? They don't go "pew pew" like they teach you in the Japanese textbooks, but in general, technology doesn't stagnate like Japan's economy LOL
 
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Blitzo

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They should hire you for PR.

Q: Why Chinese VLS tubes are so big compared to the applications all around the world?
A: It's a capacity for further growth!

The new Mk-57 VLS was designed to be bigger than Mk-41 VLS to allow it to hold larger diameter missiles than what Mk-41 could carry (with associated greater exhaust venting given it is hot launched).

Of course, the Mk-57 seems like it won't be used on any ship class other than Zumwalt now so it seems a bit of a misfire, but the intent was obviously there to future proof it for larger missiles that could be developed in future.
 
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