055 DDG Large Destroyer Thread
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Jura The idiot
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LOL I recall the repost/translation of the new info (or "info") about Type 055 production appeared here on Saturday morning which is about 120 hours ago
Even you must be at least a little embarrassed at posting this drivel in this thread. I can understand the desperation, though, because obviously you've got nothing else to offer. Whatever small minutia of credibility you had left has now been completely destroyed. By yourself, no less.
Correct, my assumption that the 055's VLS is the same as the 052D's VLS is a speculation, and I have been plain in saying this all along. Not all speculations are equal, however, and your desperate attempt to cast doubt on the type of VLS present on the 055 perfectly showcases exactly how weak your own speculations are. And no, it is not equivalent to assuming the 052C's VLS would have been the same as the 052B's, because 1) the 052B doesn't even have a VLS (LOL!!!), and 2) we already suspected a VLS was coming for the 052C before the 052C was completed, just like we suspected a DIFFERENT VLS was coming for the 052D, just like we suspect the SAME VLS is coming for the 055. This is based on both reports of the 052D's VLS becoming the new standard for PLAN ships as well as the complete lack of evidence of any other new VLS being developed or produced. So your attempted counterpoint that some other VLS is in the works has a FAR higher hill to climb than what I have asserted.
I like how you are trying to trollbait me into wasting my time when you have already hinted at your planned response. So I am going to waste, what one hour, two hours, making detailed drawings and measurements proving that the 055's hole is not larger than the 052D's only for you to summarily dismiss it in one or two seconds? I don't have a credibility problem, YOU do. Your own credibility is so shot to hell after being caught in so many falsehoods in your last few posts that I find it humorous you think my credibility is what is at stake. For someone else, sure, I would do this (I actually enjoy it). For you, not so much. No offense.
Oh ok, tough guy. Let's requote it here for everyone to read again:
As we can all see, your first paragraph is a VERY general response to what I was saying regarding ALL of the subsystems I was mentioning, which is why you used the term "straight analogs", because I was talking about the gun, I was talking about the CIWS, I was talking about all of the stuff I listed for you repeatedly, stuff that didn't just include electronics.
Not only that, you also made reference to "increase of size and payload", which clearly indicates that you ALSO were NOT merely focusing on electronics but also on weapons and hard kill defense systems like I was.
Furthermore, you used the word "furthermore" because you finally started talking about the differences in the Wuhan mockup vis a vis the 052D (i.e. the main mast and ESM mast) only in the very last sentence of your post, leaving the entire rest of your post talking about EXACTLY what I was talking about, which is everything else. Care to revise your statement?
Oh no, you are most definitely butthurt. Nobody talks like you have in the last few posts who is not actually butthurt. In fact from your language you are actually very badly butthurt. Getting at motivations is certainly a reasonable approach to someone who has to (for example) ridiculously use Wikipedia to post a non-relevant non-cited one-liner from some random unknown internet poster to try and desperately back up his own unsupportable falsities. One simply has to ask why anyone would embarrass themselves to such an extent if they aren't primarily or solely motivated by their own desire to not be seen as wrong on a point of contention?
Fine then, we'll just agree to disagree here.
OK only difference without exhaust visible for the smoke stack more nice and a bit more stealth.
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Also the pseudo-tumblehome bow that we now know the 055 has was introduced, the rotating X-band AESA on the main mast was removed, and the 128 VL cells were redistributed and reoriented.
The hangars may or may not end up being correct, depending like I said before on what size helicopter this ship intends to keep on board. The Z-8/18 may be a little too optimistic.
Yes also in the drawing VLS a bit different
Some say... can be armed with AShM YJ-100 planned also i think for H-6G range 500 -800 km ? to consider very few infos fot this eventual missile so possible for 055 i have doubts ... much more logic armed with YJ-18 i think.
For have more fast less sophisticated STOBAR CVs than CATOBAR with cats very difficult to build only USA have operationnals since long time.
The French CV/CVN classes using also US cats less long.
Showing 96 VLS here.
It's just a CGI, so it's not that important -- but it actually does show 128 VLS.
8x8 in transverse at the aft, and 8x8 in longitudinal in the bow.
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