054B/new generation frigate

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sndef888

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I think I know why I dislike the look of the ship

It's because the stealth angles in the hull don't nicely taper all the way to the front of the bow (like FREMM / Formidable / Sigma)

The tip is too pointy and looks like someone added the first 2 meters of the OHP class onto a stealth frigate
 
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ACuriousPLAFan

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Kejora said:
6,000 tons seems to be a bit low for Type 054B.
Other ships with similar dimensions have higher tonnage:

Hobart Class:
Length: 147.2 metres
Width: 18.6 metres
Weight: 7,000 tonnes

Nilgiri Class
Length: 149 metres
Width: 17.8 metres
Weight: 6,670 tonnes

I think Type 054B's tonnage might be closer to 7,000 tonnes than 6,000 tonnes.
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The "6000-ton" (full) displacement quote for the 054B FFG in my post above is mainly based on the figure that is most widely-quoted across the PLA-watching discourse right now.

Therefore, if the actual (full) displacement of the 054B differs significantly from the original "6000-ton" figure, I don't think we should be surprised either.
 
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Albatross

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ACuriousPLAFan said:
Seems unlikely.

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The VLS isn't so much of being the main point here.

I've mainly discussed about the number of AShM - In this case, YJ-12 - launchers (or more specifically, AShM missile canisters) that can be reasonably installed in the amidship section of the 054B FFG.
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Please have another look at the actual images and then the CGIs. You will see that the CGI shows 054B having way less space midship than it actually does.
 
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ACuriousPLAFan

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Albatross said:
Please have another look at the actual images and then the CGIs. You will see that the CGI shows 054B having way less space midship than it actually does.
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You do notice the two deck protrusions from both the fore and aft superstructures into the amidship section on the 054B, right?

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The 054A only has one deck protrusion from the aft superstructure into the amidship section.

And even if/when the CGI 054B differs from the real-life 054B in terms of available spacings in the amidship section - That difference isn't big enough to justify 16 YJ-12 AShM canisters in that section anyhow.

Besides, I made the aforementioned observations based on both the CGI and the photographs at Hudong-Zhonghua, not just the CGI.
 
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grulle

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ACuriousPLAFan said:
You do notice the two deck protrusions from both the fore and aft superstructures into the amidship section on the 054B, right?

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The 054A only has one deck protrusion from the aft superstructure into the amidship section.

And even if/when the CGI 054B differs from the real-life 054B in terms of available spacings in the amidship section - That difference isn't big enough to justify 16 YJ-12 AShM canisters in that section anyhow.

Besides, I made the aforementioned observations based on both the CGI and the photographs at Hudong-Zhonghua, not just the CGI.
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protrusion number 1 doesn't look like it belongs with the ship. it might be temporary and will be removed later.
 
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ACuriousPLAFan

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grulle said:
protrusion number 1 doesn't look like it belongs with the ship. it might be temporary and will be removed later.
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Until/unless we have further credible proof to reasonably conclude that protrusion #1 (i.e. behind the fore superstructure) into the amidship section of the 054B is only temporary-in-nature and will be removed in the future, I wouldn't count on that.
 
kwaigonegin

kwaigonegin

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I'll be curious to know what the complement is especially compared to the 54 Alpha. If the same or less, then it would speak to a higher degree of automation.
 
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