054/A FFG Thread II

Totoro

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The SM-2MRIIIB is still boosterless and is credited with a range of ~170km.

Okay, so USN is using then:
SM-2MR IIIA/B with range of 170 km, boosterless.
SM-2ER IIIA/B with range of 240 km, with booster.
SM-6 with range of 240+ km, with booster. (as far as i can tell, sm-6 has the same rocket motor and same booster as sm-2er)

Is the above correct?

And if so, then Patriot missile range potential should be comfortably over 200 km.
 

Tam

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The export SAMs exhibited at shows seems to be a bit more plenty. There are also the:

FM3000. This is some sort of short ranged SAM.
FK1000. This is a short ranged air defense system that reminds me of the Pantsir.

But the most intriguing is the FK-3, which is a medium ranged SAM, and which some are calling it the HQ-22. The range of this missile is up to 100km. It has a clean body, no wings in the middle, with only tail fins.

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Tam

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DK-10A aka SD-50 has 50km range in its spec sheet. It weighs about 350kg, or half the HQ-16. The use of the expanded booster which also increased the diameter from .20m to .26m, also raised the weight of the SD-10A missile from 200kg to 350kg.

In any case, even if the HQ-16 missile itself can fly well over 100km in ballistic test flight mode, the MR90 Orekh radars only have a maximum range of 74km.

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They cannot light targets further.

Another issue is that they don't seem to have some kind of data link (or at least the Russian Buk doesn't have it; who knows what the Chinese version has) to can guide the missile for mid phase guidance control from the surface. Rather, it relies on the FCR to intermittently shine the target, as it homes on the target rather directly, then the illumination becomes continuous when the missile is at terminal stage. As so it does not take the most optimally fuel efficient flight trajectory, but homes in on its target on the straightest way possible.

To eliminate these, the missile needs to develop mid phase command guidance + terminal active guidance.


The Russian missiles don't have the spokes on the tail fins like the HQ-16s do. I suspect these spokes are antennas for data links used for command guidance during launch and mid phase, so the HQ-16 might have this mode, in addition to intermittent illumination. So I cannot leave out the possibility that the HQ-16s after all can rely on command guidance early to mid flight. The spars at the root of the wings also seem more prominent than the Russian version; these are for strengthening the body for high G maneuvers that can accompany with the use of TVC (TVC nozzles are not available on the land based Buk missiles).


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Tam

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Oedosoldier has this on his tweet. The picture actually focuses on the construction of a small patrol boat that is the first of a 600 ton class, but right next to it is obviously might be among the last Type 054A to be built. Next to it is a Type 056, maybe among the forty plus number.


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