054/A FFG Thread II

Iron Man

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Nice of you to change the goalpost from the G-class to the Ticonderoga here. How about we go all the way to the first prototype mounted on the Norton Sound shall we ?
And it takes some literary incompetence to read "technology found on the Burke" as "technology unique only to the Burke".
What are you even blubbering about at this point? My reference to the G-class was to point to a possible redesign path for the Perry were it to ever restart production (which TBH is extremely low probability IMO). My subsequent reference to the Ticonderoga was to correct YOUR ridiculous assertion that the G-class used systems borrowed from the Burke; the point was that the systems you claimed came from the Burke actually came from the Tico first and were already present on them long before the Burke arrived on the scene. The G-class didn't borrow anything from the Burke because the systems on the G-class are not only not original to the Burke but also presently found on many other classes of ships. It would be about as genius as saying the G-class borrowed from the Burke, the Tico, the Alvaro de Bazan, the KDX-II, KDX-III, Atago, Kongo, etc. etc. etc. There is nothing about the Burke that makes it a special inspiration for the G-class. The G-class simply installed weapons and sensors used across multiple Western and NATO navies to enhance the effectiveness of the Perry class.
 
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Tam

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Transferred from another thread.

There is little need to get rid of those 054s prematurely.

With the rate the PLAN is inducting 054As, I would not be surprised if those 054s are serving as full time training ships to get crews ready ASAP for new built 054As.

Also, isn’t this the wrong thread for 054 talk?

That would be a good idea too. I wonder if the 052Bs are being used as training ships for the 052Ds.
 
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but still treat this as a rumor: the production run of 054A has ended at 30. Order of 054B totals 20, commencing production.
now noticed what might also be an interesting info in that threat (also by
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给大家说个事,54B本来是057,动力系统都换了,不属于54系列的。54舰体成可靠,设计057时并没有换舰体和大框架,最终057命名54B。057可能给以后远洋大护用了。
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automatically translated as

"To tell you a story, 54B was originally 057, the power system has changed, does not belong to the 54 series. 54 ship into a reliable, design 057 did not change the hull and the big frame, the final 057 named 54B. 057 may be used after the ocean protection."
 

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now noticed what might also be an interesting info in that threat (also by
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给大家说个事,54B本来是057,动力系统都换了,不属于54系列的。54舰体成可靠,设计057时并没有换舰体和大框架,最终057命名54B。057可能给以后远洋大护用了。
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automatically translated as

"To tell you a story, 54B was originally 057, the power system has changed, does not belong to the 54 series. 54 ship into a reliable, design 057 did not change the hull and the big frame, the final 057 named 54B. 057 may be used after the ocean protection."

Okay, so we have one leak.

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Versus the frigate that was shown in IDES 2016.

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And so called "Type 057" which looks to me, based on an upscaled Type 056, and which might have been a disguised leak.

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There is a basic similarity but also modifications, with a Type 1130 added behind the VLS and ahead of the bridge, and the funnel being split into two.
 

schenkus

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According to a source close to the naval industry in China, the program type 054A Chinese frigates will end (finally) after 30 hulls. The all-electric propulsion successor, Type 054B, is already under construction.
From Henri K blog cofirming Kurutoga rumor

I'm not sure I would call it "confirming the rumor": Henri K doesn't tell us anything about his source, it might be the same posts from fzgfzy.
 

Iron Man

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LOL Iron Man I think you need to see the main gun here:
looks to me as quote Chinese 5" endquote
You know that's just an unofficial internet CGI, right? Not only that, the dimensions of the gun are wrong and have been sized down to actually look reasonable on a frigate.
 
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