600KM is already conservative since YJ-12 could do it.
052C/052D Class Destroyers
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600KM is already conservative since YJ-12 could do it.
These numbers are from PLAN, they carries exactly the same weight as USAF stated F-35 and F-22's RCS figures for example. Are those US figures backed up by tests? I think you can answer your own question.
Yeah, just look at the Merkava. Claims to be the most protected tank in the world. Got destroyed by a single cheap RPG-7 warhead.
Pan Jingfu, the chief designer of 4 DDG models of the 051 and 052 series, passed away at 93. RIP.
潘镜芙，1930年1月出生于浙江省湖州市南浔区。1952年毕业于浙江大学电机系。1995年当选中国工程院院士。曾任中国船舶集团有限公司第七〇一研究所研究员，历任该所副所长兼副总工程师、驱逐舰总设计师。
潘镜芙主要从事水面舰艇设计研究，成功主持设计了我国两代四种型号导弹驱逐舰，在驱逐舰的总体设计、全武器综合作战系统和电磁兼容等高新技术领域完成大量开拓性工作。在第一代导弹驱逐舰设计中，首次将舰对舰导弹武器系统装备于水面舰艇，并在武器装备按系统研制方面做了开创性工作。在主持第二代新型导弹驱逐舰设计中，采用系统工程思想，做到舰船综合性能兼优，实现了作战指挥自动化，缩小了与世界先进水平的差距。在装备选型上，采用国内新技术成果与引进柴燃联合动力装置等先进技术相结合的方针，促进了我国造船、机电、电子等工业的发展。潘镜芙将自己的一生与新中国舰船事业的发展紧密联系在一起，毕生坚持“为学当似金字塔，既要博大又要高”。
我国舰船领域专家潘镜芙院士逝世，享年93岁
中国工程院院士、舰船领域专家潘镜芙院士，因病医治无效，于2023年10月8日，在上海华东医院逝世。潘镜芙，1930年1月出生于浙江省湖州市南浔区。1952年毕业于浙江大学电机系。1995年当选中国工程院院士。曾任中国船舶集团有限公司第七〇一研究所研究员，历任该所副所长兼副总工程师、驱逐舰总设计师。
潘镜芙主要从事水面舰艇设计研究，成功主持设计了我国两代四种型号导弹驱逐舰，在驱逐舰的总体设计、全武器综合作战系统和电磁兼容等高新技术领域完成大量开拓性工作。在第一代导弹驱逐舰设计中，首次将舰对舰导弹武器系统装备于水面舰艇，并在武器装备按系统研制方面做了开创性工作。在主持第二代新型导弹驱逐舰设计中，采用系统工程思想，做到舰船综合性能兼优，实现了作战指挥自动化，缩小了与世界先进水平的差距。在装备选型上，采用国内新技术成果与引进柴燃联合动力装置等先进技术相结合的方针，促进了我国造船、机电、电子等工业的发展。潘镜芙将自己的一生与新中国舰船事业的发展紧密联系在一起，毕生坚持“为学当似金字塔，既要博大又要高”。
These numbers are entirely non controversial and lacking in detail as well and are more minimums than maximums (even accounting for things like target set).
I'm not sure why these numbers should be viewed as "very good" nor do I know why they should be viewed skeptically.
If anything this should be pretty obvious.
I hope you don't expect them to publish instrument recordings on an open day. And I am kinda confident they tested their weapons.
As the chief designer, he took charge of the designs of two generations of Type-IV guided missile destroyers in China.
First time I've seen 051 and 052 referred to as Type IV.
They should be doing some test as it's the radar that the fleet will trust their life to.
What they publish tho is up to them. 400 km or in excess of that range figure is well within the ballpark of radar of that size in 052D. It will of course depend on target RCS etc. Typically however S-band radar will have range advertised against 2 sqm RCS with specific PD (Probability of Detection) and Pfa (Probability of False Alarm) which typically 50 % and PfA correspond to a swerling 1 target of 10^-6.
IF you really interested in digging, you have to at least have rough idea how big the antenna is, and find some reference of power of TRM's. Back in 1990's China already have as far as i remember 40 Watt AESA TRM in S-band (3 GHz). Then estimate the TRM numbers from the antenna size. If we can assume it's as big as SPY-1D you can expect 4350 TRM's Maybe bit less as the radar also contain extra arrays for C-band datalink for HHQ-9, can maybe take 3000, this still more than DDG-X Zummwalt's Volume Search Radar which have 2268 TRM's. You can then try using radar range equation to get the range estimate.
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I hope you are not referring to this.
潘镜芙主要从事水面舰艇设计研究，成功主持设计了我国两代四种型号导弹驱逐舰, which meant two generations and four types of designations for destroyers.
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400 km is the radar horizon range for a surface radar against an aircraft flying at 30,000 ft, which is a standard cruising altitude. So a claimed 400 km detection range is saying that the true range is limited by the radar horizon and mays be higher.