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052C/052D Class Destroyers
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Jura The idiot
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LOL I might've failed your test, though, as
- there was no connection between the PLAN ships journey and that maritime show, and
- your 'SPB' is still Leningrad to me
Jura The idiot
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got something for you:
the Peter the Great and
are on their way down to the Russian Navy Day (which comes on the 30th this year) in so ... my conjecture: meeting "Hefei"?!
LOLOL
Even just the European NATO countries spend nearly three times as much on defence as Russia and Russia also needs to man defences in the Far East. So Russia is interested in defence, not offence.
riverman i just gave u your first like in this forum. you have been to this forum for almost 11 years. damn that's way long time . lolI dont care, thanks any way
Jura The idiot
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Yesterday at 7:37 PM
Une autre histoire du destroyer 173 Changsha porté « disparu »
while reading it:
The only thing that is still certain today is that the 174 Hefei destroyer of the same class actually replaced it, to participate in the Sino-Russian naval exercise "Joint Sea 2017".
The destroyer 173 Changsha, the frigate 571 Yuncheng of Type 054A and the tanker-tanker 964 Luomahude Type 903A constituted the Chinese fleet which left the port of Sanya on Sunday June 18th. But soon this first "disappeared" of official communications and it is his sistership 174 Hefei that continues to lead the other two ships to the joint exercise in St. Petersburg and Kaliningrad.
Currently the three buildings of the "new" Chinese fleet have already reached the North Sea. They were accompanied by the Dutch frigate HNLMS Van Amstel on Monday in their crossing and heading for the Baltic Sea."
While some Taiwanese media are applauding the possible damage to the Chinese destroyer, as an element to reassure themselves and to serve as evidence of the mediocrity of the quality "Made in China", another medium of the island has just evoked a Another possibility which seems equally plausible.
According to the Up Media newspaper quoting a source from the Taiwanese army (?), Destroyer 173 Changsha was on June 18 from China for the Baltic Sea. But for some unknown reason, the ship would never have left the South China Sea and would have turned back towards the Fiery Cross reef to return to the Zhejiang Naval Base, Vessel is affected, by sailing at a speed of "22 knots".
This speed of the ship thus seems to rule out any serious damage to the propulsion system as claimed by another Chinese source, quoted in our article of 8 July.
The same Taiwanese source assumes that this early return would be linked to the disciplinary investigations that are currently underway in the Chinese army, and that one or more Chinese destroyer or flotilla officials would be involved, forcing the Chinese navy To repatriate the whole ship and have it replaced by another of the same class.
On the basis of official communications, notably that of the supply of the Baltic Sea fleet in the Gulf of Aden from Sanya, the Chinese fleet is under the command of Vice Admiral YU Man Jiang (满江 满江) , Also deputy commander of the Southern Fleet. He is assisted by Vice Admiral FU Xiao Dong (傅晓东), Deputy Commissioner of the Southern Fleet Party and former Chief Judge of the Military Court of the Chinese Army, and LI Hui Flotilla Chief of Staff李辉)."
FU Xiao Dong was not mentioned in the article, but it appeared in another recent article of China News dating 6 days ago, and it is known that he is also on board Of the destroyer 174 Hefei.
In other words, none of the top three officials of the Chinese fleet is concerned by what the Taiwanese media is talking about.
Whichever person would have forced Changsha to turn around in the middle of a mission, the ship could have deposited it on the Fiery Cross Reef, which has a 3,000-meter runway, An airplane brings it back to the mainland.
Any less than the captain of the ship that is involved, and implies by default any crew?
Anyway, without any statement from the Chinese navy, everything can be considered rumor today, whether it is the hypothesis of the destroyer of the destroyer in the Indian Ocean or this new eventuality of disciplinary investigations ...
To be continued."
now I post google translation of
Une autre histoire du destroyer 173 Changsha porté « disparu »
while reading it:
"Ten days ago, we have relayed a source according to which the destroyer 173 Changsha, of Type 052D, would have broken down in the Indian Ocean, but could not confirm the information, for lack of institutional communications.
The only thing that is still certain today is that the 174 Hefei destroyer of the same class actually replaced it, to participate in the Sino-Russian naval exercise "Joint Sea 2017".
The destroyer 173 Changsha, the frigate 571 Yuncheng of Type 054A and the tanker-tanker 964 Luomahude Type 903A constituted the Chinese fleet which left the port of Sanya on Sunday June 18th. But soon this first "disappeared" of official communications and it is his sistership 174 Hefei that continues to lead the other two ships to the joint exercise in St. Petersburg and Kaliningrad.
Currently the three buildings of the "new" Chinese fleet have already reached the North Sea. They were accompanied by the Dutch frigate HNLMS Van Amstel on Monday in their crossing and heading for the Baltic Sea."
"Only there is still no news on the track of the 173 Changsha, a ship of nearly 7,000 tons full load and one of the most advanced destroyers of the Chinese Navy.
While some Taiwanese media are applauding the possible damage to the Chinese destroyer, as an element to reassure themselves and to serve as evidence of the mediocrity of the quality "Made in China", another medium of the island has just evoked a Another possibility which seems equally plausible.
According to the Up Media newspaper quoting a source from the Taiwanese army (?), Destroyer 173 Changsha was on June 18 from China for the Baltic Sea. But for some unknown reason, the ship would never have left the South China Sea and would have turned back towards the Fiery Cross reef to return to the Zhejiang Naval Base, Vessel is affected, by sailing at a speed of "22 knots".
This speed of the ship thus seems to rule out any serious damage to the propulsion system as claimed by another Chinese source, quoted in our article of 8 July.
The same Taiwanese source assumes that this early return would be linked to the disciplinary investigations that are currently underway in the Chinese army, and that one or more Chinese destroyer or flotilla officials would be involved, forcing the Chinese navy To repatriate the whole ship and have it replaced by another of the same class.
On the basis of official communications, notably that of the supply of the Baltic Sea fleet in the Gulf of Aden from Sanya, the Chinese fleet is under the command of Vice Admiral YU Man Jiang (满江 满江) , Also deputy commander of the Southern Fleet. He is assisted by Vice Admiral FU Xiao Dong (傅晓东), Deputy Commissioner of the Southern Fleet Party and former Chief Judge of the Military Court of the Chinese Army, and LI Hui Flotilla Chief of Staff李辉)."
"In the July 8 issue of the Chinese army newspaper, where the 174 Hefei destroyer is now the flagship of the flotilla (and no longer the 173 Changsha), YU and LI have both been mentioned.
FU Xiao Dong was not mentioned in the article, but it appeared in another recent article of China News dating 6 days ago, and it is known that he is also on board Of the destroyer 174 Hefei.
In other words, none of the top three officials of the Chinese fleet is concerned by what the Taiwanese media is talking about.
Whichever person would have forced Changsha to turn around in the middle of a mission, the ship could have deposited it on the Fiery Cross Reef, which has a 3,000-meter runway, An airplane brings it back to the mainland.
Any less than the captain of the ship that is involved, and implies by default any crew?
Anyway, without any statement from the Chinese navy, everything can be considered rumor today, whether it is the hypothesis of the destroyer of the destroyer in the Indian Ocean or this new eventuality of disciplinary investigations ...
To be continued."
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This is the quote I found the most interesting out of all that.
Yet more people who think the 052D isn't "7,500 tons" full load.
Haha well thank you very much.
Yeah the years pass fast. I remember when the first Type-071 was laid down, when the 051C and 052B destroyers was launched. The J-10 fighter entering service ecs ecs.
Although I dont write much I relly enjoy this forum
Jura The idiot
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I'll state the obvious: it's not my words quoted (despite "Jura said" header), but words from the google translation I posted Today at 8:47 AMThis is the quote I found the most interesting out of all that.
Yet more people who think the 052D isn't "7,500 tons" full load.
(recently a hilarious situation happened when somebody quoted Xinhua this way in https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/military-situation-in-the-sino-indian-border.t8064/)
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