052/052B Class Destroyers

foxmulder said:

I agree with Mysterre 100%.

Every time a missile launches it will burn the wall. First the paint will get darker, then it will peal off, then we will see the bare metal starts to get bluesh brownish color... Sailors will oil it with cooking oil and.......... we will have a nicely seasoned wok surface ready to use!

Click to expand...

asif iqbal said:

Ok so Type 052D had 32 VLS forward and 32 VLS aft so that's 64

New phased array radar panels

A new 130mm gun

More stealth features to reduce heat signature

But have a question, could they not have stuck to the 48 VLS forward and put in 32 VLS in the back to make 80 missiles? Or is that just not possible Because now no need for the YJ-62 launchers could that space alone hold a 32 VLS?

Click to expand...

MwRYum said:

Nah, at 64-cell the 052D is pack to the brim, to go above that you need a bigger hull.

Click to expand...

MwRYum said:

Nah, at 64-cell the 052D is pack to the brim, to go above that you need a bigger hull.

Click to expand...

Mysterre said:

Yeah, at 64 cells and 7,500? tons this ship is definitely maxed out. Time for a 9,000t Type 55 with 96 cells.

Click to expand...

hmmwv said:

Well, just take a look at this pic of the Tico, they have similar beam but that 64 cell MK41 is only a little larger than the 32 cell VLS on the 052D, so I do believe the cells are large, and as the GJB indicated it will quad pack missiles. Which missile is another questions, not anything in HQ16's class that's for sure, a sino-ESSM derived from PL12 is the most likely option. The range will have to be greater than 15km otherwise they might as well just put a few 24 round HQ10 launchers around the ship.

Click to expand...

Mysterre said:

From someone who has shown just about zero knowledge of his own, this is pretty hilarious. The only solution to the proximity problem is the cold launch method, which has already been discussed but which in your drooling haste to respond, must have skipped over as you frenetically typed what you thought was an awesome comeback. It's not a "safety" problem, so I don't really know WTH you are talking about. Try getting with the program. On the other hand, this is not a perfect solution because it limits the flexibility of those cells closest to the wall. Some day the PLAN may switch over to a new hot launch LR SAM, and the inconvenience of this current arrangement will be felt much more obviously. Just because PLAN designers probably found a solution to scorched paint and heat-damaged metal doesn't mean it's a perfect one or one that can't be critiqued. Perhaps if you had any imagination this would not be as much of an issue as it is for you now.

Click to expand...

antiterror13 said:

PL-12 range is up to 100km. It is a best candidate for quad packing

Click to expand...