052/052B Class Destroyers

lilzz

Banned Idiot
Re: DDG 052C Thread

How's 052C's defense against anti-ship missiles?
Since they are deploying in SSF, they might encounter potential missiles like large AsM like Sunburns, Brahmos. Can 052C handle those?
 

Londo Molari

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Re: DDG 052C Thread

It has Type 730 gun CIWS , which should be effective against subsonic anti-ship missiles.

Then there is the HQ9 missile system which is designed for area-wide anti-aircraft defense.

So there's two layers of defense, which is good. But neither weapon is, as far as i know, designed to stop supersonic missiles. Perhaps if a 054A was escorting the 052C, it could offer protection with its HQ-16s, which might be optimized for this role.
 

lilzz

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Re: DDG 052C Thread

It has Type 730 gun CIWS , which should be effective against subsonic anti-ship missiles.

Then there is the HQ9 missile system which is designed for area-wide anti-aircraft defense.

So there's two layers of defense, which is good. But neither weapon is, as far as i know, designed to stop supersonic missiles.

Now, why would the CIWS only can stop subsonic missile not supersonic? Because of its reaction time or ability to track?
This doesn't make sense.

CIWS have a reaction of few seconds and its aided by IR sensor. The Supersonic missiles like theBrahmos and SUnburn would have a big IR sig. So, it should be able to engage them.
 

crobato

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Re: DDG 052C Thread

Against missiles, the gun fire control radar would be tracking the missile, determining its bearing and speed, and the fire control computer would be taking the data, and then computing in anticipation where the missile would be ahead of time. The gun would be aimed and positioned ahead and in anticipation of the missile. This is called lead targeting. Against a faster supersonic target, you're only making allowances for the increased speed, so instead of aiming at point B, its pointing at C further down the track.
 

tphuang

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Re: DDG 052C Thread

It has Type 730 gun CIWS , which should be effective against subsonic anti-ship missiles.

Then there is the HQ9 missile system which is designed for area-wide anti-aircraft defense.

So there's two layers of defense, which is good. But neither weapon is, as far as i know, designed to stop supersonic missiles. Perhaps if a 054A was escorting the 052C, it could offer protection with its HQ-16s, which might be optimized for this role.

huh? You should read up on my article on 054A, the part on Type 730 working in conjunction with SR-64 to track and engage supersonic targets. As for HH-9, it can certainly engage sea skimmers all the way out to probably 40 km or radar horizon (which ever one is less).
 

Londo Molari

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Re: DDG 052C Thread

Wow is that real... its so clear, and there's no motion blurr... either a camera with a very high shutter speed, or its a realistic 3D rendering with motion blurr turned off

If its real, then is this the first time we've seen the missile being fired?
 
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Gollevainen

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Re: DDG 052C Thread

I'm in the lines of Pointplank...Also interestingly enough the missile has the Yj-62 written on it (like making sure everyone knows what is fired here) in latin letters...
 
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