00X/004 future nuclear CATOBAR carrier thread

Michaelsinodef

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By the same line of argument, the existence of a project for nuclear carrier doesn't guarantee the next build will be a nuclear one.
It indeed does not guarantee.

The next one might be conventional with the nuclear coming later.

All in all, we really can't conclude all that much from the mockup abd models maybe or maybe not, who knows.
 

00CuriousObserver

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Do you have the link to this stream?
Also, I just realised he claimed the carrier programme is planned through the 6th hull, does it mean they intend on ordering 3 new hulls in this FYP(2025-2030)?

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It's for members only right now, but typically he'll cut the stream into chunks and release them later.

And no, it doesn't necessarily mean in this FYP, but it is possible. For example, if we assume CV-19 has started construction and launches by 2029, and another carrier immediately starts following its launch.

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The model’s main island looks off, but the funnel might be viable. It would make sense to keep the island as consistent as possible across future CVs (if any) and CVNs

To clarify: I’m speculating that future CVs and CVNs might share an identical (or near-identical) main superstructure, with CVs adding a funnel behind it. The advantage is consistency across the ships. I'm not saying this implies the next carrier is necessarily a CV or a CVN; current noises indicate it might be both.
 

AndrewS

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It's for members only right now, but typically he'll cut the stream into chunks and release them later.

And no, it doesn't necessarily mean in this FYP, but it is possible. For example, if we assume CV-19 has started construction and launches by 2029, and another carrier immediately starts following its launch.



To clarify: I’m speculating that future CVs and CVNs might share an identical (or near-identical) main superstructure, with CVs adding a funnel behind it. The advantage is consistency across the ships. I'm not saying this implies the next carrier is necessarily a CV or a CVN; current noises indicate it might be both.

If 3 carriers have been ordered, I think it would be a CVN plus two CV

Remember the CVN would be a brand new design, so does it make sense to immediately order more?
In contrast, we already have the Fujian in service, so there is a mature enough CV design, ready to start serial production.

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Let's assume that a CVN and a CV are being built now, in separate shipyards.

The Fujian module assembly took 2 years before it was launched.

If we go with a notional 2029 launch date for the 1st CV, that means module assembly from 2027-2029.
And the logical plan is for another to follow immediately in the same shipyard. So module assembly for the 2nd CV would run from 2029-2031.

So we could be looking at the following carrier launch schedule

2029: 1st CV
2030: 1st CVN (assuming construction takes an additional year)
2031: 2nd CV

That is 1 carrier per year.

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And if US-China relations get even worse, they might decide to continue this cadence.
After all, there are 2 shipyards and it should take 2 years to assemble the aircraft carrier modules and then launch.

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I've said for a long time now that it was a mistake for the US to give up on engagement and go for containment.
 
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00CuriousObserver

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I think diving too deeply into the "6th hull" is premature. A mere "it exists" is not enough imo to yield constructive conclusions at this stage.

I should specify that he said "规划", which is broader than "plan". It's closer to "there is a 6th hull on the program roadmap", rather than any specific details about the hull.

If we take this to mean "there will be a PLANS-21", I don't think anyone would disagree.

Similarly, if we assume the rumours about PLANS-19 and PLANS-20 to be true, i.e. construction has began for both, meaning largely finalized designs, then the news that PLANS-21 has entered some sort of preliminary planning/research/study phase is also reasonable.

The more important point is the added support for PLANS-19 and PLANS-20 being built simultaneously.
 

AndrewS

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I think diving too deeply into the "6th hull" is premature. A mere "it exists" is not enough imo to yield constructive conclusions at this stage.

I should specify that he said "规划", which is broader than "plan". It's closer to "there is a 6th hull on the program roadmap", rather than any specific details about the hull.

If we take this to mean "there will be a PLANS-21", I don't think anyone would disagree.

Similarly, if we assume the rumours about PLANS-19 and PLANS-20 to be true, i.e. construction has began for both, meaning largely finalized designs, then the news that PLANS-21 has entered some sort of preliminary planning/research/study phase is also reasonable.

The more important point is the added support for PLANS-19 and PLANS-20 being built simultaneously.

I think it only makes sense to talk about a 6th hull, if it is expected to be built immediately or soon afterwards.

If they were going to wait until the next 5 year timeframe, there's another 4+ years until a decision has to be made on whether to start construction. And in 4 years time, the situation may have changed
 
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