054/A FFG Thread II
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Got the charming smell of high-technology appearance.Model of rumoured 054B (for export?) on exhibit at Langkawi, Malaysia.....
PS of 054B, resemble a small scale 055
Another version, possibly with all electric propulsion......
Model of rumoured 054B (for export?) on exhibit at Langkawi, Malaysia.....
PS of 054B, resemble a small scale 055
Another version, possibly with all electric propulsion......
Those CGIs have been around for a while, but they're not really connected with the model
More intruigingly, is because there actually were CGIs back from 2014 by the same artist who drew a model of a frigate he labelled as "057"... which was posted on a few forums but wasn't taken too seriously, until late last year/early this year when the first model of that ship showed up as an export frigate design.
And the CGI from 2014 is almost identical to how the model turned out to be, only big difference being the CGI had a H/PJ-38 130mm gun whereas the model seems to have the 76mm gun, and the VLS platform is also a bit different although the first model shown at IDEAS last year seemed to still have the high VLS platform as in the CGI.
What is interesting is whether the artist had some insight into what CSSC was cooking up at the time, which would be quite an interesting development, or perhaps more strangely is if CSSC saw the artist's CGI and decided it was a good shape to build a frigate around it. I would have to go with the former rather than the latter but I mean who knows.
However, I strongly believe that neither the CGI, the model or the CGI that davidau posted are reflective of what the real 054B or "057" will look like. The model is an export frigate design, but it doesn't correspond to what the 054B will likely be, and more importantly it would be quite a departure for China to show the design of a new big ticket item like a new frigate, at an export or defence expo first, prior to its construction and launch in China itself.
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Some exciting news for future PLAN frigates. Big shrimp fzgfzy decided to elaborate on numerous details about the
Someone in the cjdby thread asked him if the 054B will resemble the export frigate design and he responded in the affirmative. So, expect the final 054B to have an integrated/semi-integrated mast, but not the lantern one we see at Wuhan.
- Designation-wise, the frigate definitely used to be called 057 but weapon systems ended up being conservative so 054 designation is likely still in use.
- Weapon systems, like previously mentioned, more-or-less unchanged. I'd assume VLS and slant-launchers are still there.
- Propulsion system is definitely IEPS, very advanced. Will also be used on future Chinese surface combatants, unsure if 052E or 055A first.
- Originally, the tonnage was going to be a few hundred tonnes heavier due to new propulsion, however, naval architects supposedly managed to design their way out of this increase.
- The 054B will not have the integrated mast seen at Wuhan testing grounds. Since the mast did get tested, it will eventually end up on a ship but that ship won't be the 054B.
- There is one external feature that he refuses to describe but claims will be very noticeable when we do see it.
- And now, perhaps the most important part of the post; the 054B will have major breakthroughs in ASW capability. For such an important aspect, he doesn't seem to have devoted many characters to this passage.
- Numbers unknown for the time being. It will depend on the PLAN's requirements.
Someone in the cjdby thread asked him if the 054B will resemble the export frigate design and he responded in the affirmative. So, expect the final 054B to have an integrated/semi-integrated mast, but not the lantern one we see at Wuhan.
It is interesting that the Wuhan integrated mast won't be on the 054B.
That said, I'd be rather surprised and a little disappointed if 054B doesn't have the new universal VLS, I think that would be an oversight on the Navy's part.
It is good to have further confirmation that 054B will have IEPS though, and the increase in ASW capability (whatever it comes in the form of) will be quite welcome as well I'm sure.
also curious that he seems to think an 052E might be on the cards
Someone in the cjdby thread asked him if the 054B will resemble the export frigate design and he responded in the affirmative. So, expect the final 054B to have an integrated/semi-integrated mast, but not the lantern one we see at Wuhan.
I saw that post, but tbh I'm not sure if fzgfzy meant "it will be similar"/"not too different" generally or specifically.
Like, if it was said in a general sense, it would just reflect a stealthy frigate with an integrated mast, but if he meant it specifically would he be referring to the hull configuration, the weapons configuration, the sensor configuration, etc?
I find it hard to believe he meant it specifically, but rather generally -- like "yes 054B will also be a stealthy frigate with an integrated mast and other LO features".