The War in the Ukraine

[Stealthflanker]

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Russian artillery strikes on Ukrainian mechanized column near Soledar sometime during the battle. That's some extremely accurate hits. I wonder if the Russians were using guided artillery shells?

They have been using Krasnopol for some time and alot of them apparently, fired from their Akatsiya howitzer.

I'm curious tho why Russians dont seem to be interested in fully Satellite guided projectile like Excalibur.

 

[Stierlitz]

Germany will be able to deliver its Leopard tanks to Ukraine no earlier than next year(2024), if such a decision is made, said Armin Papperger, head of the German arms manufacturer Rheinmetall.

Answering the question of how many tanks Berlin can provide to Kiev, Papperger clarified that Germany has 22 Leopard 2 combat armored vehicles that can be prepared and sent to Ukraine. It will take "almost a year" to repair, since the tanks are "not only repainted, but also rebuilt" for use in combat. "They are completely disassembled and then reassembled," explained Papperger.

AFU will not be able to use Western tanks in combat - Military Watch

The American edition of Military Watch reports that German and British Leopard 2 and Challenger 2 tanks, which the West agreed to supply to Kiev, are unlikely to take part in the war in Ukraine.

According to the author of the publication, the AFU soldiers will face problems in maintenance and lack of fuel for refueling German Leopard 2 and British Challenger 2.

"Both tanks are significantly heavier than those currently used by the AFU, and will require significantly more fuel and maintenance. Their weight makes them less suitable for action on narrow roads or in cities, and their lack of automatic loaders means that they will need a third more crew than Soviet-designed tanks."

 

[Stealthflanker]

So what makes them unwilling or unable to take one from active stock and instead use that mothballed one to replace the previously donated Leopard's. ?

Or maybe the active inventory is already at standard that they were not willing to sacrifice ?

"Both tanks are significantly heavier than those currently used by the AFU, and will require significantly more fuel and maintenance. Their weight makes them less suitable for action on narrow roads or in cities, and their lack of automatic loaders means that they will need a third more crew than Soviet-designed tanks."

This kinda given tho... the effect would be Ukraine must train loader. which can be drawn from new recruits or reduce the size of their tank platoon, sacrificing a tank so 3 leopards or chally can have a loader.

and Weight is not really an issue i think, Leopards and Challenger are from ground pressure wise are just as mobile as their Soviet counterparts.

This is for example our Leopard 2's and Leopard 2RI.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1610909058416148480

 

[wilhelm]

and Weight is not really an issue i think, Leopards and Challenger are from ground pressure wise are just as mobile as their Soviet counterparts.

This is for example our Leopard 2's and Leopard 2RI.

It's not really about battlefield mobility.
It's about infrastructure, transport and access...bridges etc.
And then the reverse...recovery in case of breakdown or damage.

This is of course, setting aside logistics, spares..etc.

 

[redion]

From the latest news about the U.K military aid package for the Ukrainian Army the list below

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1614536514419003393

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

They have been using Krasnopol for some time and alot of them apparently, fired from their Akatsiya howitzer.

I'm curious tho why Russians dont seem to be interested in fully Satellite guided projectile like Excalibur.

Krasnopol and other laser guided weapons can be used to hit moving targets easily I think.

 

[Temstar]

From the latest news about the U.K military aid package for the Ukrainian Army the list below

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1614536514419003393

That's already retracted lol:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1614576434382528513

 

[Stealthflanker]

And then the reverse...recovery in case of breakdown or damage.

This is of course, setting aside logistics, spares..etc.

I expect they will be abandoned tho upon breakdown and pray their logistic troops can recover them. They will scavange whatever parts they can found in the recovered vehicle to keep the survivor remains.

It's kinda what Russian did tbh from what i see in their maintenance vids.

It's about infrastructure, transport and access...bridges etc.

If there is a problem in such then i would expect these western tanks wont touch their Eastern front but focused around Kiev or big cities they want to keep. Not gonna expect them around Donbass or Luhansk.

 

[plawolf]

That's a neptune anti ship missile alauncher

They will send them with pilots??? Or it will take 6 month to one year to send them because they need to train them ?

Seems like a tailored plan to get rid of their Spare prince Harry. Manipulate him into volunteering to fight in Ukraine with his Apache experience and crack open a bottle of the palace’s finest bubbly.

 

[Tam]

They have been using Krasnopol for some time and alot of them apparently, fired from their Akatsiya howitzer.

I'm curious tho why Russians dont seem to be interested in fully Satellite guided projectile like Excalibur.

There is a separate version of the Krasnopol for the Msta-s due to its autoloader called the Krasnopol M. The Akasya, D20, and Msta-b uses the same Krasnopol projectile. 120mm mortars use the Kitolov 2 and 122mm cannons use the Kitolov 2M.