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coolgod

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Overlord said:
China should do more , taiwan just had announced that they won't allow any Chinese tech in their government run offices /institute ,school etc.

They're just doing what America wants them to do. Let that island to starve and face high cost of purchasing goods from other countries. It would be better if china can throw bunch of drugs on the island opium has really crippled the strength of Chinese people of will to fight. There are other things china can do which can be helpful for future conflict china should use everything except war to cripple taiwan , destroy their will to fight or increase level of corruption by giving them million of free money to sabotage their own weapons.

A weak and hopeless Taiwanese are good & obident Taiwanese.
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Your idea is terrible, China isn't going to get its future citizens hooked on drugs. Besides, Taiwan already has gangs for doing that. You make it sound like the Wanwanese have the will to fight.
 
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ACuriousPLAFan

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Overlord said:
No that's how USA and other countries had done to crush their rival & adversaries.

War should be the last choice for a country, before war all methods should be adapted to crush your adversaries .
It's always better to be cautious , just look at how USA sanction their rival even without starting any war to cripple their economy and how people of those nation overthrow their own government. USA has been master of implementing alot of "art of war " secrets.

A society hooked on drugs and alot of internal conflict and crimes would use resources to buy drugs, or even go as far as sell those weapons and even use those things to hurt their own people by looting stores. A rise of drug addiction leads to rise of alot of crimes, a religious conflict and rise of extreme left and extreme right wing politics also gives good results when it comes to increase in internal conflict,

Subdue your enemy before fight, also you should read art of war then you might not think of these methods are bunch of crazy ideas.

"The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting." -AOW

"Supreme excellence consists of breaking the enemy’s resistance without fighting." -AOW

Also you should not think like russian and jump on war and then end up in their situation.


"There is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare.
The greatest." - art of war
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The problem with that assumption being that Taiwan is neither rival nor adversary of China. Taiwan, for all it's worth, is still considered to be an integral part of China, alongside the population on the island that are willing to be under Beijing's rule.

To China, Taiwan is like a child that has been forcefully seperated from his/her parent by outsiders when the parent is at his/her most vulnerable, and brought up by those outsiders to be disgusted and hating his/her own parent.

Let's say that you are the parent of this child. Assuming one day in the future, you successfully won back your child's custody from the outsiders after a two-decades-long lawsuit battle, pain and suffering. Would you like to see your child being:

1. Hateful and disgusted at you but otherwise largely fine; or
2. Hateful and disgusted at you while in similar state to those wandering mindlessly on Kensington Avenue in Philadelphia, just because you want to make your child come back to you on his/her own secretly drugging him/her throughout those years and make his/her life as sufferable as possible?

If you want to speak about rival and adversary of China, that would be the United States of America and her loyal servants. Those are the outsiders that snatched your child away from you when you are at your worst shape. Those are the ones who, until now, still holds your child's custody, and are actively edging your child to fight against you, so that both of you are bruised, bloodied and too weak to defend against them.

So if you want China to do like what you said against her rival and adversary, the US would be your main target.

However, why should China even bother doing anything of that sort to the US? The American society's self-inflicted narcotic (especially fentanyl) overdose epidemic is already doing its job without China even doing a d4mn thing. Furthermore, I would prefer that China keeps her hands clean for as long as possible.
 
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sndef888

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ACuriousPLAFan said:
The problem with that assumption being that Taiwan is neither rival nor adversary of China. Taiwan, for all it's worth, is still considered to be an integral part of China, alongside the population on the island that are willing to be under Beijing's rule.

To China, Taiwan is like a child that has been forcefully seperated from his/her parent by outsiders when the parent is at his/her most vulnerable, and brought up by those outsiders to hate his/her own parent.

Let's say you are the parent of this child. Assuming that one day in the future, you successfully won back your child's custody from the outsiders after a two-decades-long lawsuit battle, pain and suffering. Would you like to see your child being:

1. Hateful and disgusted at you but otherwise largely fine; or
2. Hateful and disgusted at you while in similar state to those wandering mindlessly on Kensington Avenue in Philadelphia, just because you want to make your child come back to you by making his/her life as sufferable as possible?

If you want to speak about rival and adversary of China, that would be the United States of America and her loyal servants. Those are the outsiders that snatched your child away from you when you are at your worst shape. Those are the ones who, until now, still holds your child's custody, and are actively edging your child to fight against you.

So if you want China to do like what you said against her rival and adversary, the US would be your main target.

However, why should China even bother doing anything of that sort to the US? Their self-inflicted narcotic (especially fentanyl) overdose epidemic is already doing its job without China doing a damn thing.
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It's all a question of where a country stands in terms of realpolitik and morality

The moral thing to do would be to not make taiwanese lives harder since they're all considered chinese, instead pursue win win cooperation and hope they repay mainland efforts.
The realpolitik thing to do would be to get taiwan hooked up on drugs, crime and destroy their economy so that they will be unable to resist mainland rule

An immoral political system like the US would choose the latter for sure. But for China it's not so clear cut
 
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ACuriousPLAFan

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Here's a news article by Xinhua, covering President Xi Jinping's visit of Saudi Arabia.
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From Xinhua News Agency: An "Important Milestone" for China-Saudi Arabia Relations!

After six years, President Xi Jinping visited Saudi Arabia again. President Xi Jinping held talks with Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince and Prime Minister Mohammed and met with King Salman on December 8th, local time. The two sides jointly drew up the development of China-Saudi Arabia relations and reached a series of important consensus, highlighting the strategic and global nature of China-Saudi Arabia relations.

Under the leadership of the head of state diplomacy, the comprehensive strategic partnership between China and Saudi Arabia will continue to build on its success and take a new step forward.
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Special Arrangements show the Highest Courtesy

In the afternoon of December 7, local time, after the special plane entered Saudi airspace, four Saudi air force warplanes rose to escort the plane; when the special plane entered the sky over Riyadh, six "Saudi Eagle" protocol escort planes accompanied the plane. After the arrival of the plane, the airport fired a 21-gun salute, and the protocol escort aircraft pulled out the red and yellow ribbons symbolizing the Chinese flag in the air, and were warmly greeted by important members of the royal family and senior government officials.

At noon local time on Dec. 8, Saudi Crown Prince and Prime Minister Mohammed held a welcoming ceremony for Xi Jinping at the Royal Palace in Riyadh on behalf of King Salman.

The Saudi Royal Palace motorcycle and horse teams escorted Xi Jinping's car to arrive, and were warmly greeted by Saudi Crown Prince and Prime Minister Mohammed at the drop-off point.

On the afternoon of 8th, at the Royal Palace in Riyadh, Xi Jinping was awarded an honorary doctorate degree in management from King Saud University, the first Saudi university. The Saudi side said it was to highlight President Xi Jinping's great achievements in governance and his important contributions to Saudi-Chinese friendship and cooperation. Saudi Crown Prince and Prime Minister Mohammed accompanied the ceremony.
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"An Important Milestone"

After the welcome ceremony, Xi Jinping held talks with Crown Prince Mohammed at the Royal Palace in Riyadh. Xi Jinping pointed out that the current international and regional situation is evolving in a profound and complex manner, and the strategic and global nature of Sino-Saudi relations has become more prominent. China has placed the development of relations with Saudi Arabia as a priority in the overall diplomatic situation, especially in the Middle East, and is willing to work with the Saudi side to promote greater development of the China-Saudi comprehensive strategic partnership.

Xi Jinping stressed that the two sides should implement the "Belt and Road" initiative and Saudi Arabia's "2030 Vision" docking, and promote cooperation between the two countries in various fields to achieve more results.

Crown Prince Mohammed said the Saudi side looks forward to increasing mutual support with China and working together to raise the Saudi-Chinese comprehensive strategic partnership to a higher level, believing that President Xi Jinping's visit will become an important milestone in the history of Saudi-Chinese relations.

Xi Jinping met with Saudi Arabia's King Salman at the Royal Palace in Riyadh on the afternoon of Dec. 8. Xi Jinping noted that he was glad to visit Saudi Arabia again after six years, and that he has vivid memories of his last visit to Saudi Arabia. President Xi Jinping is glad to see that the important consensus we reached on the development of Sino-Saudi relations are being transformed into tangible cooperation results. China-Saudi Arabia cooperation has broad prospects. China regards Saudi Arabia as an important force in the multipolar world and attaches great importance to the development of a comprehensive strategic partnership with Saudi Arabia.

King Salman said he warmly welcomed President Xi Jinping to visit Saudi Arabia again, and Xi Jinping's successful visit to Saudi Arabia in 2016 was unforgettable. In recent years, Saudi Arabia and China have made good progress in strategic docking and cooperation in various fields. King Salman attach great importance to the development of relations with China and am ready to work with President Xi Jinping to promote the continuous development of the Saudi-Chinese comprehensive strategic partnership.
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A Series of Important Achievements

On the 8th, the two heads of state personally signed the Agreement on Comprehensive Strategic Partnership between the People's Republic of China and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, agreeing to hold a meeting between the heads of state in both countries alternately every two years.

China and Saudi Arabia agreed to raise the level of head of the Sino-Saudi High-Level Joint Committee to that of prime minister. The committee was established in 2016.

The two leaders jointly attended a ceremony to exchange texts of cooperation documents in the fields of "One Belt, One Road", judicial, education, hydrogen energy, investment and housing.

The two sides issued the Joint Declaration of the People's Republic of China and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

During the meeting with Crown Prince Mohammed, President Xi Jinping also announced that China has agreed to include Saudi Arabia as a destination country for outbound tourism groups of Chinese citizens and to expand people-to-people exchanges and humanistic exchanges between the two sides.
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