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FriedButter

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Merkel admits that Minsk 2 agreement was made to buy time for NATO to rearm Ukraine while toying with Russia through useless meetings, which this revealation apparently came as a shock for Putin.

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Normally, stuff like this should be taken to the grave but public pressure likely played a role in forcing it out. In any case, Germany has finally let their real face out. They are the bait to lure in rivals for the US. China should continue to be wary of any hands extending from Europe.
 

siegecrossbow

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This is really huge, the only non-arabic country attend the GCC. Pretty sure, they plan something in secret to destroy the hegemony of the West.
“I want some petroyuan for Christmas.
Only some petroyuan will do.
I don’t want a destroyer, nor dinky hypersonics.
I want some petroyuan to play with and enjoy!”
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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Normally, stuff like this should be taken to the grave but public pressure likely played a role in forcing it out. In any case, Germany has finally let their real face out. They are the bait to lure in rivals for the US. China should continue to be wary of any hands extending from Europe.

Which makes me think that if the Shanghai Communiqué document jointly issued by China and the US in February 1972 holds the same "hidden values and objectives" as the Minsk Agreements.

Claiming to abandon the recognition of Taipei for Beijing in order to buy time for a deep, throughout inflitration and indoctrination of anti-China, pro-US and pro-seperatism thoughts and values across the Wanwanese populace using US bootlicker elements on the island and under-the-table diplomatic pressure. So that when the time is ripe, the US would edge Taiwan towards declaring independence from China. When China goes for AR over this, the US would just tear that document up like toilet paper, and support Taiwan instead.

The US would then go to war with China, defeat and destroy China, and place a puppet in Beijing/Nanjing that would forever be subservient to the whimps and demands of Washington DC.

If that isn't achievable, use Taiwan as the fuse that would turn the eastern part of the Eurasian continent into a sea of destruction and chaos, thus securing the dominant position and hegemony of the US on the world stage.

Perhaps, this has always been the case...

I hope the Chinese leadership is smart and diligent enough to see through and recognize this.
 
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ACuriousPLAFan

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China's offensive and defensive soft power needs to do a lot more work in order to counter thess kinds of propaganda offensives by the West and India.

China is already labelled by the West and India for employing "Wumao" internet bot army to "spread Chinese propaganda". Might as well put this into mass and effective use.

Seeing how inept China's propaganda department is at directing efforts and doing their job on the international stage is just sad and pitiful.
 
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In4ser

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China's soft power needs to do a lot more work in order to counter thess kinds of propaganda offensives by the West and India.

China is already labelled by the West and India for employing "Wumao" internet bot army to "spread Chinese propaganda". Might as well put this into mass and effective use.

Seeing how inept China's propaganda department is at doing their job on the international stage is just disheartening.
It's as almost if India doesn't recognize the root causes of the West's decline and instead adopted the worst aspects of Liberal Democracy (i.e. service-based economy, sensationalized news and media, identity politics, and religious extremism) without its benefits. Guess having too large of an ex-pat community in the West is rubbing off in the wrong ways as they now exporting toxic Western ideology and mindset home.
 

manqiangrexue

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China's offensive and defensive soft power needs to do a lot more work in order to counter thess kinds of propaganda offensives by the West and India.

China is already labelled by the West and India for employing "Wumao" internet bot army to "spread Chinese propaganda". Might as well put this into mass and effective use.

Seeing how inept China's propaganda department is at directing efforts and doing their job on the international stage is just sad and pitiful.
It's sad and pitiful that you get affected so badly by this. They play a small man's game while China plays a big man's game. They waste their time doing this shit because they have nothing better to do. Chinese people have much much better things to do than trying to look good to foreigners in their media. We can actually train people in STEM to help the nation grow. There are people who say that China can use a more muscular media; that's not wrong. We can go on live air and make Tucker Carlson stutter and cry and that'd at least be official media fighting other media. But blame the CCP because they don't wanna roll in the mud with some Indian beach shitters on Twitter??!! If you need them to stop because you can't look forward through their desperate crap, then the only way is to make China so strong and to win so convincingly that they get tired of this useless crap and accept China's dominance. The solution is NOT to bark like a dog because the other guy only knows how to bark like a dog.
 
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daifo

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Which makes me think that if the Shanghai Communiqué document jointly issued by China and the US in February 1972 holds the same "hidden values and objectives" as the Minsk Agreements.

Claiming to abandon the recognition of Taipei for Beijing in order to buy time for a deep, throughout inflitration and indoctrination of anti-China, pro-US and pro-seperatism thoughts and values across the Wanwanese populace using US bootlicker elements on the island and under-the-table diplomatic pressure. So that when the time is ripe, the US would edge Taiwan towards declaring independence from China. When China goes for AR over this, the US would just tear that document up like toilet paper, and support Taiwan instead.

The US would then go to war with China, defeat and destroy China, and place a puppet in Beijing/Nanjing that would forever be subservient to the whimps and demands of Washington DC.

If that isn't achievable, use Taiwan as the fuse that would turn the eastern part of the Eurasian continent into a sea of destruction and chaos, thus securing the dominant position and hegemony of the US on the world stage.

Perhaps, this has always been the case...

I hope the Chinese leadership is smart and diligent enough to see through and recognize this.

The Shanghai Communique was a strategic move to block the Soviets/Russia and the 1st island chain was there to block China. It was good for as long as China was against the Soviet Union/Russia and had markets for the looting for western companies and ideologies. Ask the Native Americans, these treaties are not long term and come with hidden surprises lol
 

baykalov

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Until today, poor Putin still believed in the honesty of his Western "partners".

Putin about Merkel's words about cheating with the Minsk agreements: "To be honest, it was absolutely unexpected for me. It's disappointing. Trust almost dropped to 0. How to negotiate? About what? And is it possible to negotiate with them? Where are the guarantees? "

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The President believes that the former German leader's remarks justified Moscow's offensive in Ukraine.

Russian President Vladimir Putin has said he is “disappointed” by former German chancellor Angela Merkel’s recent comments regarding the Minsk agreements – the now defunct roadmap for peace in Ukraine – which she admitted was a ruse to buy Ukraine more time to build up its military.

“What can you say to that?” Putin said during a press conference on Friday, adding that he was shocked to hear such a confession from the former German leader, having believed that Russia’s partners in Berlin “treated us with sincerity.”

The Russian leader said Merkel’s remarks once again prove that launching a military operation in Ukraine was the correct decision.

“As it turns out, nobody intended to fulfil any part of the Minsk agreements,” Putin said, recalling that former Ukrainian President Pyotr Poroshenko also recently admitted that he had no intention of adhering to the documents when he signed them in 2014 and 2015.

“I thought the other participants of this agreement were at least honest, but no, it turns out they were also lying to us and only wanted to pump Ukraine with weapons and get it prepared for a military conflict,” Putin said. “Apparently, we got our bearings too late, to be honest. Maybe we should have started all this [the military operation] earlier, but we just hoped that we would be able to solve it within the framework of the Minsk agreements.”

Vladimir Putin said Merkel’s admission raises an important question about trust. “Trust is already almost at zero, but after such statements, how can we possibly negotiate? About what? Can we make any agreements with anybody and where are the guarantees?” Putin asked, while acknowledging that some sort of agreement will have to be reached eventually.

Putin’s comments follow Angela Merkel’s interview with the newspaper Die Zeit on Wednesday, in which she said the actual purpose of the 2014-2015 Minsk agreements was to stall for time and allow Kiev to build up its military potential for a future confrontation with Russia.

Moscow has expressed shock over the admission, with Russia’s Foreign Ministry claiming that Merkel’s words are legitimate grounds for a tribunal.

The Minsk agreements, brokered by Germany and France, were supposed to be a roadmap for peace in the war-torn country, giving the regions of Donetsk and Lugansk special status within the Ukrainian state, whose rule they rejected after the 2014 Maidan coup.

Russian has explained that its current military offensive in Ukraine was largely prompted by Kiev’s failure to implement the terms of the accords.
 
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