The War in the Ukraine

[LawLeadsToPeace]

I am also rather disappointed by members of this forum suggesting prisoners of war should be abused. Captured Russians should not be abused. Captured Wagner mercenaries should not be abused. Any captured ProRussian Syrian volunteers (where are they btw?) should not be abused. Any captured Ukrainians should not be abused. Any captured pro Ukrainian volunteers should not be abused. That the mods here allow it is wildly surprising.

At the end of the day, we may accidentally skim over the supposedly offensive posts, so please report them when you do spot them.

Now then.

The logistics of the Russians is interesting. We know the T-62s are in service around Donetsk now. Some are claiming it is with the DNR. However, why would they need to pull T-62s? There are supposedly 3k T-80s in reserve for the Russians. That should have been enough by itself to replenish the Russian losses 4x over and does not include the 400+ T-90s or 2,000+ T-72s. 5,400 tanks that could be used before the T-62s should be warmed up. Supposedly. And when less than 800 have been lost so far? hmm. Something doesn't sit well. The claims of 'you don't need the best for rear echelons' doesn't sound right either. Especially when...

It depends on the conditions of the T-80s. Bringing them back into service takes a lot of time and manpower. As for the T62s, they are, if I remember correctly, of the m version with further upgrades. So they aren't totally obsolete.

Russian forces are using the BMP-1 now. Proof?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1538650636325113856

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Between the two - T-62 and BMP-1 - I have suspicions about what is going on. I doubt many here would listen other than to claim it is merely I am casting shade on the Russian military. I don't think so. These suggest logistics strain, very nontrivial strain. Not going to collapse tomorrow strain, but serious all the same.

If you looked at the tweet, it says the BMP 1AM, which is a bmp 1 upgraded in 2018. So that has been in service for several years.

Severodonetsk still hasn't been taken, not entirely. Looks like we will have another Mauripol situation.

The Russians have started something in the Kharkov region. Counterattacks? More?

The Ukrainians appear to making some progress in the Kherson region as well. How much is hard to tell.

This war is far, far from over. The Russians ought to have been able to pull off some blitzkrieg still work, but have not been able to. The Ukrainians do not appear to have saved up any equipment for an armored thrust of their own. I really don't see any huge changes in the last month and, tbh, I don't see any coming in the next.

At this point, the Russians are, from the looks it, grinding down the Ukrainians' combat power. The amount of controlled land isn't that important. The armies are much more important since they can't be recovered while land can. That is one of the core principles of warfare.

 

[RottenPanzer]

It depends on the conditions of the T-80s. Bringing them back into service takes a lot of time and manpower. As for the T62s, they are, if I remember correctly, of the m version with further upgrades. So they aren't totally obsolete.

Wasn't there has been couple of videos of T-80 mostly BV variants and some BMPs transported via train and claimed to be use by Reservists?

 

[Hinex]

⚡️Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation in Ukraine (June 20, 2022)

◽️Russian Federation Armed Forces continue launching attacks at military facilities located in Ukraine.

Oniks high-precision missile launched by Bastion coastal missile system has striken Artsiz airfield in Odessa region. The attack has resulted in destroying a control station for Bayraktar-TB2 unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV) and 2 UAVs of this system on the ground.

Within the counter-battery warfare, 11 plattoons of Grad multiple rocket-launching systems have been neutralised near Kurtimovka, Ochertino, Tonenkoye, Sukhaya Balka, Novgorodskoye, Mayorovka, Otradovka and Zaytsevo over the past 24 hours.

◽️In addition, 12 artillery plattoons of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) have been neutralised at their firing positions near Dzerzhinsk, Novgorodskoye, Nikolayevka, Leninskoye and Zaytsevo.

◽️2 M777 155-mm howitzers and their crews have been eliminated near Podgornoye.

Operational-tactical and army aviation has neutralised 47 manpower and equipment concentration areas.

◽️The eliminated targets include: manpower and military equipment near Vesyoloye, Privolchye and Bogorodichnoye (Donetsk People's Republic), a launching ramp of Buk-M1 multiple rocket-launching system near Seversk (Donetsk People's Republic), as well as illumination and observation radar of S-300 air defence missile system near Novodruzhesk (Lugansk People's Republic).

Missile troops and artillery have neutralised 148 manpower and military equipment concentration areas of the AFU, 25 command posts, as well as 59 artillery units at their firing positions.

◽️Attacks launched by aviation, missile troops and artillery have resulted in 450 nationalists, 13 tanks and other armoured combat vehicles, as well as 16 special vehicles.

Russian air defence systems have shot down 1 MiG-29 of the Ukrainian Air Force near Apostolovo (Dnepropetrovsk region).
In addition, 9 Ukrainian UAVs have been shot down near Alisovka (Kharkov region), Verkhnetoretskoye (Donetsk People's Republic), Grechishkino (Lugansk People's Republic), mound Mogila Kulicha, Tomina Balka and Chernobayevka (Kherson region).

◽️9 projectiles launched by Uragan multiple-launching system have been intercepted near Malaya Kamyshevakha and Dolgenkoye (Kharkov region), Makeyevka and Avdeyevka (Donetsk People's Republic).

In total, 208 airplanes and 132 helicopters, 1,260 unmanned aerial vehicles, 345 anti-aircraft missile systems, 3,696 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 576 combat vehicles equipped with multiple rocket-launching systems, 2,055 field artillery cannons and mortars, as well as 3,731 units of special military equipment have been destroyed during the special military operation.

◽️The enemy suffers considerable losses during the special military operation.

◽️Since May 19, during the month, only the 14th Mechanised Brigade of the AFU has lost 2,100 persons who resulted dead and wounded. Due to low moral and psychological conditions, 800 persons destined for replenishing the losses of this unit, refused to go to the operational area and accused officers of incompetence, bribery and cronyism in paying money allowance.

◽️About 100 servicemen of a reconnaissance unit of the 10th Mountain Assault Brigade have been relieved of combat duty and transported to Kremenchug for investigation.

◽️A considerable part of the commanders of the 30th Mechanised Brigade of the AFU have abstracted themselves from managing their units and refuse to fulfil combat tasks. All kinds of pretexts are used for simulating illness. The majority of units have already been left without any officers.

#MoD #Russia #Ukraine
@mod_russia_en

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

 

[Stealthflanker]

Oniks high-precision missile launched by Bastion coastal missile system has striken Artsiz airfield in Odessa region. The attack has resulted in destroying a control station for Bayraktar-TB2 unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV) and 2 UAVs of this system on the ground.

This one is good progress. See if they can do more. engaging the control station not only bring the drone down but also inflict some psychological pressure.

 

[sheogorath]

Some are claiming it is with the DNR. However, why would they need to pull T-62s? There are supposedly 3k T-80s in reserve for the Russians.

T-62 were still in service recently with the Southern Military District and had been refurbished shortly before being put in storage. Most T-80's have been out in reserve far longer than that and probably require more time and work before they can be sent to the front; a couple of week ago we saw a train loaded with at least +12 T-80BV's so its not like they don't have any as you seem to imply.

Russian forces are using the BMP-1 now. Proof?

BMP-1AM's are a different beast from your stock BMP-1's in DPR and Ukranian use, though

That should have been enough by itself to replenish the Russian losses 4x over and does not include the 400+ T-90s or 2,000+ T-72s. 5,400 tanks that could be used before the T-62s should be warmed up.

As mentioned before, that they are in reserve doesn't necesarily mean they can be sent to the front right away without some work being done on them as we don't know the state kept in reserve as, nor the location of the reserve depots to the overhaul-capable plants.

The T-62's for all intents and purposes, could have been the closest, least work required MBT's in the area and the fastest way to close an existing gap in the rear without pulling more tanks from other active units not deployed. And so far, we haven't much in the way of T-62 to judge them as actually being used on the front lines.

 

[Soldier30]

A Russian high-speed landing craft of the Caspian Flotilla was spotted off the coast of Sevastopol, possibly Russia has again begun preparations for a landing operation in Odessa. Project 21820 Dugong air cavity landing craft went into production in 2006. The boat has a jet propulsion and is able to move in shallow water, while developing a speed of 65 km / h.

The Russian Ministry of Defense showed the combat work of the calculation of the 220-mm MLRS "Hurricane" in Ukraine, the calculation of the installation receives target designation from the UAV "Orlan-10". The video shows the 9K57 Uragan version mounted on the ZIL-135LM chassis and put into service in 1975. In terms of the main characteristics of the Uragan MLRS, it significantly surpassed the B-21 Grad MLRS, the area of destruction increased 10 times and amounted to 42 hectares.

A massive missile strike by the Russian army destroyed the Shebelinsky gas and oil refinery in the village of Andreevka in the south of Kharkiv. The refinery supplied the armed forces of Ukraine with fuel. Judging by the size of the fire, it can be concluded that there is a sufficiently large amount of fuel reserves at the enterprise.

 

[RottenPanzer]

A very interesting interview with Ukrainian T-84 tank crews, they said it's already their 2nd or 3rd tank already and they believe that they could came out on top against the Russians, it's also note that the commander of this tank platoon was a 21 year old fresh graduate from this year

 

[sheogorath]

There are claims Ukraine has hit three oil rig platforms out in the black sea. If true, seems kind of a dumb move in sense that it will probably have more repercursions for Ukraine than Russia, specially if an oil spill happens

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

 

[NiuBiDaRen]

Seems like the missiles being supplied to Ukraine are very weeaboo

 

[FADH1791]

The Ukrainians at this point are lashing out like petulant children who lose a game. They know they are losing and there is little they can do so they are just doing random attacks at civilian areas with no military significance.