Ukrainian War Developments

[supersnoop]

A problem with Chinese gear is that it will take months to train the Russians to even basic proficiency on those, apart from MANPADS.

Another thing I thought of why that report is full of it…

Do those months include Chinese lessons for non-export gear? lol

 

[Jingle Bells]

That would be a massive escalation and totally inapproprate, China still recognises the Ukraine's soverignty. I doubt even Russia would want that as it could set the pretext for NATO to do something similar. Again, Russia now has multiple units of heavy artillery stationed all over Ukraine, it can hit major cities with much more sustained firepower than any single plane or drone can manage.

If you really wanted to help Russia and test out the PLAAF's new toys then you may as well just attack Taiwan now. Less air miles and is a place actually meaningful to China.

Chill, I am just saying that this is a possibility. As for how likely this is, I said it before: very unlikely.

P.S. did you just mentioned the "T-word"?! Dude, @sequ and I got banned for a week for mentioning the "T-word"! Don't create more work load to burden our Mod!!!

 

[Temstar]

That Japanese volunteer? He's gone too, hopped on a bus back to Poland. He issued an apology notice for bailing and wishes everyone to look after themselves.

 

[Jingle Bells]

CNN Updated Report on alleged Russian appeal to China:

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I thought you said earlier with another US/Western news source that China was going to "stab Russia in the back"?

 

[yongpengsuen]

Russians got Javelin for reverse engineering and mass production.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1503528473654173697

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Well Taiwan being an island means that there won't be volunteers like this.

half true. they'll fly over when the tension starts building.

what will be different is that they won't have a Poland to escape to. When the PLAAF no fly zone goes up, when 039As are prowling the East China Sea, when DF-17s and JH-7As are making it rain, when the power is cut, when the cell phone returns just no signal... they won't be able to just say "nope I'm done". They're done when China is done.

While I see this posted a lot, I doubt the Russian armed forces will make it a policy to shoot foreign captured combatants on site. At least I hope not. Russian forces took plenty of ISIS prisoners in Syria.

The main differences will be that they lose GC privileges. They don't need to be reported when in custody, they won't be automatically released when the conflict is over, can be made to work, no communication etc. They will charged in military court and will likely be will be sentenced for however long is deemed appropriate.

They will be given a nice 5-10 year vacation to historically real reenactment of Siberian gulags. The experience includes a wheat gruel all you can eat package (as in fighting other prisoners for all you can eat) and digging holes to fill them back up.

 

[james smith esq]

This French Volunteer is highly motivated now, in 18 hours he has made from Ukraine to Poland to Sweden, Facebooking as he goes.View attachment 85235

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Only a non-military idiot would salute uncovered and indoors! This guy’s a wannabe poseur!

 

[james smith esq]

Does anybody else have the bad feeling that, before this is over, dangerous bi, or even, multi-lateral nuclear-brinksmanship will come into play?

 

[gelgoog]

If Russia wants a swift victory in Ukraine they need to stop the weapons shipments coming in
Otherwise Russia is fighting the uphill struggle
and the only way they can stop the weapon shipments coming in is secure the Western border
and the only way they can secure the western border is by having drones

The Russians control the airspace. So any large movements of vehicles headed into Ukraine's frontlines will be spotted and destroyed.

Are these numbers correct:
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Then two-thirds of the Russian army would have marched into Ukraine. Who then guards Russia's borders?

Those numbers are BS. The Russian ground forces are almost triple that number.

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The report above is from 4 years ago when the Russians were still in the middle of beefing up their ground forces.
Even back then they already had more troops than that.

And that is not counting with reserves they could call upon. They massively expanded the size of the ground forces since 2014.
Then you have the Donbass militia also not in those numbers.
Russia has more Ratnik-2 suits in service than the total amount of troops in that list. And not all troops need to use Ratnik-2.
They have like 300,000+ Ratnik-2 suits.

The National Guard is not on those numbers. And Russia has 20,000 Chechens there alone which are not listed.

 

[Maikeru]

I thought you said earlier with another US/Western news source that China was going to "stab Russia in the back"?

Yes. And?